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| Started by | David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> |
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| First post | 2017-04-18 02:10 +0200 |
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[patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> - 2017-04-18 02:10 +0200
Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-04-18 03:40 +0200
Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> - 2017-04-18 23:40 +0200
Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-04-19 02:20 +0200
Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> - 2017-04-20 01:30 +0200
Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> - 2017-04-20 08:10 +0200
Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-04-19 09:10 +0200
Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-04-18 09:20 +0200
| From | David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-18 02:10 +0200 |
| Subject | [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low |
| Message-ID | <txoSu-7uv-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
The purpose of the code that commit 623762517e23 ("revert 'mm: vmscan: do
not swap anon pages just because free+file is low'") reintroduces is to
prefer swapping anonymous memory rather than trashing the file lru.
If all anonymous memory is unevictable, however, this insistance on
SCAN_ANON ends up thrashing that lru instead.
Check that enough evictable anon memory is actually on this lruvec before
insisting on SCAN_ANON. SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is used as the threshold to
determine if only scanning anon is beneficial.
Otherwise, fallback to balanced reclaim so the file lru doesn't remain
untouched.
Signed-off-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
---
mm/vmscan.c | 41 +++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
--- a/mm/vmscan.c
+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
@@ -2186,26 +2186,31 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
* anon pages. Try to detect this based on file LRU size.
*/
if (global_reclaim(sc)) {
- unsigned long pgdatfile;
- unsigned long pgdatfree;
- int z;
- unsigned long total_high_wmark = 0;
-
- pgdatfree = sum_zone_node_page_state(pgdat->node_id, NR_FREE_PAGES);
- pgdatfile = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_FILE) +
- node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_FILE);
-
- for (z = 0; z < MAX_NR_ZONES; z++) {
- struct zone *zone = &pgdat->node_zones[z];
- if (!managed_zone(zone))
- continue;
+ anon = lruvec_lru_size(lruvec, LRU_ACTIVE_ANON, sc->reclaim_idx) +
+ lruvec_lru_size(lruvec, LRU_INACTIVE_ANON, sc->reclaim_idx);
+ if (likely(anon >= SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)) {
+ unsigned long total_high_wmark = 0;
+ unsigned long pgdatfile;
+ unsigned long pgdatfree;
+ int z;
+
+ pgdatfree = sum_zone_node_page_state(pgdat->node_id,
+ NR_FREE_PAGES);
+ pgdatfile = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_FILE) +
+ node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_FILE);
+
+ for (z = 0; z < MAX_NR_ZONES; z++) {
+ struct zone *zone = &pgdat->node_zones[z];
+ if (!managed_zone(zone))
+ continue;
- total_high_wmark += high_wmark_pages(zone);
- }
+ total_high_wmark += high_wmark_pages(zone);
+ }
- if (unlikely(pgdatfile + pgdatfree <= total_high_wmark)) {
- scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
- goto out;
+ if (unlikely(pgdatfile + pgdatfree <= total_high_wmark)) {
+ scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
+ goto out;
+ }
}
}
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| From | Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> |
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| Date | 2017-04-18 03:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <txqhz-8es-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1624965 |
Hello David,
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 05:06:20PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> The purpose of the code that commit 623762517e23 ("revert 'mm: vmscan: do
> not swap anon pages just because free+file is low'") reintroduces is to
> prefer swapping anonymous memory rather than trashing the file lru.
>
> If all anonymous memory is unevictable, however, this insistance on
"unevictable" means hot workingset, not (mlocked and increased refcount
by some driver)?
I got confused.
> SCAN_ANON ends up thrashing that lru instead.
Sound reasonable.
>
> Check that enough evictable anon memory is actually on this lruvec before
> insisting on SCAN_ANON. SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is used as the threshold to
> determine if only scanning anon is beneficial.
Why do you use SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX instead of (high wmark + free) like
file-backed pages?
As considering anonymous pages have more probability to become workingset
because they are are mapped, IMO, more {strong or equal} condition than
file-LRU would be better to prevent anon LRU thrashing.
>
> Otherwise, fallback to balanced reclaim so the file lru doesn't remain
> untouched.
>
> Signed-off-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> ---
> mm/vmscan.c | 41 +++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
> 1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -2186,26 +2186,31 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> * anon pages. Try to detect this based on file LRU size.
Please update this comment, too.
> */
> if (global_reclaim(sc)) {
> - unsigned long pgdatfile;
> - unsigned long pgdatfree;
> - int z;
> - unsigned long total_high_wmark = 0;
> -
> - pgdatfree = sum_zone_node_page_state(pgdat->node_id, NR_FREE_PAGES);
> - pgdatfile = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_FILE) +
> - node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_FILE);
> -
> - for (z = 0; z < MAX_NR_ZONES; z++) {
> - struct zone *zone = &pgdat->node_zones[z];
> - if (!managed_zone(zone))
> - continue;
> + anon = lruvec_lru_size(lruvec, LRU_ACTIVE_ANON, sc->reclaim_idx) +
> + lruvec_lru_size(lruvec, LRU_INACTIVE_ANON, sc->reclaim_idx);
> + if (likely(anon >= SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)) {
With high_wmark, we can do this.
if (global_reclaim(sc)) {
pgdatfree = xxx;
pgdatfile = xxx;
total_high_wmark = xxx;
if (pgdatfile + pgdatfree <= total_high_wmark) {
pgdatanon = xxx;
if (pgdatanon + pgdatfree > total_high_wmark) {
scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
goto out;
}
}
}
> + unsigned long total_high_wmark = 0;
> + unsigned long pgdatfile;
> + unsigned long pgdatfree;
> + int z;
> +
> + pgdatfree = sum_zone_node_page_state(pgdat->node_id,
> + NR_FREE_PAGES);
> + pgdatfile = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_FILE) +
> + node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_FILE);
> +
> + for (z = 0; z < MAX_NR_ZONES; z++) {
> + struct zone *zone = &pgdat->node_zones[z];
> + if (!managed_zone(zone))
> + continue;
>
> - total_high_wmark += high_wmark_pages(zone);
> - }
> + total_high_wmark += high_wmark_pages(zone);
> + }
>
> - if (unlikely(pgdatfile + pgdatfree <= total_high_wmark)) {
> - scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> - goto out;
> + if (unlikely(pgdatfile + pgdatfree <= total_high_wmark)) {
> + scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> + goto out;
> + }
> }
> }
>
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| From | David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-18 23:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low |
| Message-ID | <txJ0S-2KJ-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1624987 |
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > The purpose of the code that commit 623762517e23 ("revert 'mm: vmscan: do
> > not swap anon pages just because free+file is low'") reintroduces is to
> > prefer swapping anonymous memory rather than trashing the file lru.
> >
> > If all anonymous memory is unevictable, however, this insistance on
>
> "unevictable" means hot workingset, not (mlocked and increased refcount
> by some driver)?
> I got confused.
>
For my purposes, it's mlocked, but I think this thrashing is possible
anytime we fail the file lru heuristic and the evictable anon lrus are
very small themselves. I'll update the changelog to make this explicit.
> > Check that enough evictable anon memory is actually on this lruvec before
> > insisting on SCAN_ANON. SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is used as the threshold to
> > determine if only scanning anon is beneficial.
>
> Why do you use SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX instead of (high wmark + free) like
> file-backed pages?
> As considering anonymous pages have more probability to become workingset
> because they are are mapped, IMO, more {strong or equal} condition than
> file-LRU would be better to prevent anon LRU thrashing.
>
If the suggestion is checking
NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON > total_high_wmark pages, it would be a
separate heurstic to address a problem that I'm not having :) My issue is
specifically when NR_ACTIVE_FILE + NR_INACTIVE_FILE < total_high_wmark,
NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON is very large, but all not on this
lruvec's evictable lrus.
This is the reason why I chose lruvec_lru_size() rather than per-node
statistics. The argument could also be made for the file lrus in the
get_scan_count() heuristic that forces SCAN_ANON, but I have not met such
an issue (yet). I could follow-up with that change or incorporate it into
a v2 of this patch if you'd prefer.
In other words, I want get_scan_count() to not force SCAN_ANON and
fallback to SCAN_FRACT, absent other heuristics, if the amount of
evictable anon is below a certain threshold for this lruvec. I
arbitrarily chose SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX to be conservative, but I could easily
compare to total_high_wmark as well, although I would consider that more
aggressive.
So we're in global reclaim, our file lrus are below thresholds, but we
don't want to force SCAN_ANON for all lruvecs if there's not enough to
reclaim from evictable anon. Do you have a suggestion for how to
implement this logic other than this patch?
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -2186,26 +2186,31 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> > * anon pages. Try to detect this based on file LRU size.
>
> Please update this comment, too.
>
Ok, I've added: "Try to detect this based on file LRU size, but do not
limit scanning to anon if it is too small itself."
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| From | Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> |
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| Date | 2017-04-19 02:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <txLvH-4wZ-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1625664 |
Hi David,
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 02:32:56PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Minchan Kim wrote:
>
> > > The purpose of the code that commit 623762517e23 ("revert 'mm: vmscan: do
> > > not swap anon pages just because free+file is low'") reintroduces is to
> > > prefer swapping anonymous memory rather than trashing the file lru.
> > >
> > > If all anonymous memory is unevictable, however, this insistance on
> >
> > "unevictable" means hot workingset, not (mlocked and increased refcount
> > by some driver)?
> > I got confused.
> >
>
> For my purposes, it's mlocked, but I think this thrashing is possible
> anytime we fail the file lru heuristic and the evictable anon lrus are
> very small themselves. I'll update the changelog to make this explicit.
I understood now. Thanks for clarifying.
>
> > > Check that enough evictable anon memory is actually on this lruvec before
> > > insisting on SCAN_ANON. SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is used as the threshold to
> > > determine if only scanning anon is beneficial.
> >
> > Why do you use SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX instead of (high wmark + free) like
> > file-backed pages?
> > As considering anonymous pages have more probability to become workingset
> > because they are are mapped, IMO, more {strong or equal} condition than
> > file-LRU would be better to prevent anon LRU thrashing.
> >
>
> If the suggestion is checking
> NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON > total_high_wmark pages, it would be a
> separate heurstic to address a problem that I'm not having :) My issue is
> specifically when NR_ACTIVE_FILE + NR_INACTIVE_FILE < total_high_wmark,
> NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON is very large, but all not on this
> lruvec's evictable lrus.
I understand it as "all not eligible LRU lists". Right?
I will write the comment below with that my assumption is right.
>
> This is the reason why I chose lruvec_lru_size() rather than per-node
> statistics. The argument could also be made for the file lrus in the
> get_scan_count() heuristic that forces SCAN_ANON, but I have not met such
> an issue (yet). I could follow-up with that change or incorporate it into
> a v2 of this patch if you'd prefer.
I don't think we need to fix that part because the logic is to keep
some amount of file-backed page workingset regardless of eligible
zones.
>
> In other words, I want get_scan_count() to not force SCAN_ANON and
> fallback to SCAN_FRACT, absent other heuristics, if the amount of
> evictable anon is below a certain threshold for this lruvec. I
> arbitrarily chose SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX to be conservative, but I could easily
> compare to total_high_wmark as well, although I would consider that more
> aggressive.
I realize your problem now. It's rather different heuristic so no need
to align file-lru. But SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is too conservatie, too. IMHO.
How about this?
diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
index 24efcc20af91..5d2f3fa41e92 100644
--- a/mm/vmscan.c
+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
@@ -2174,8 +2174,17 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
}
if (unlikely(pgdatfile + pgdatfree <= total_high_wmark)) {
- scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
- goto out;
+ /*
+ * force SCAN_ANON if inactive anonymous LRU lists of
+ * eligible zones are enough pages. Otherwise, thrashing
+ * can be happen on the small anonymous LRU list.
+ */
+ if (!inactive_list_is_low(lruvec, false, NULL, sc, false) &&
+ lruvec_lru_size(lruvec, LRU_INACTIVE_ANON, sc->reclaim_idx)
+ >> sc->priority) {
+ scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
+ goto out;
+ }
}
}
Thanks.
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| From | David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-20 01:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [patch] mm, vmscan: avoid thrashing anon lru when free + file is low |
| Message-ID | <ty7cR-1dY-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1625747 |
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Minchan Kim wrote:
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 24efcc20af91..5d2f3fa41e92 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -2174,8 +2174,17 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> }
>
> if (unlikely(pgdatfile + pgdatfree <= total_high_wmark)) {
> - scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> - goto out;
> + /*
> + * force SCAN_ANON if inactive anonymous LRU lists of
> + * eligible zones are enough pages. Otherwise, thrashing
> + * can be happen on the small anonymous LRU list.
> + */
> + if (!inactive_list_is_low(lruvec, false, NULL, sc, false) &&
> + lruvec_lru_size(lruvec, LRU_INACTIVE_ANON, sc->reclaim_idx)
> + >> sc->priority) {
> + scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> + goto out;
> + }
> }
> }
>
Hi Minchan,
This looks good and it correctly biases against SCAN_ANON for my workload
that was thrashing the anon lrus. Feel free to use parts of my changelog
if you'd like.
Tested-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
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| From | Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-20 08:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tydrX-5iV-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1626870 |
Hi David,
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 04:24:48PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Minchan Kim wrote:
>
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index 24efcc20af91..5d2f3fa41e92 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -2174,8 +2174,17 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> > }
> >
> > if (unlikely(pgdatfile + pgdatfree <= total_high_wmark)) {
> > - scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> > - goto out;
> > + /*
> > + * force SCAN_ANON if inactive anonymous LRU lists of
> > + * eligible zones are enough pages. Otherwise, thrashing
> > + * can be happen on the small anonymous LRU list.
> > + */
> > + if (!inactive_list_is_low(lruvec, false, NULL, sc, false) &&
> > + lruvec_lru_size(lruvec, LRU_INACTIVE_ANON, sc->reclaim_idx)
> > + >> sc->priority) {
> > + scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> > + goto out;
> > + }
> > }
> > }
> >
>
> Hi Minchan,
>
> This looks good and it correctly biases against SCAN_ANON for my workload
> that was thrashing the anon lrus. Feel free to use parts of my changelog
> if you'd like.
Thanks for the testing!
As considering how it's hard to find such a problem, it should be totally your
credit. So you can send the patch with detailed description. Feel free to
add my suggested-by. :)
Thanks!
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| From | Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-19 09:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <txRUu-lm-27@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1625664 |
On Tue 18-04-17 14:32:56, David Rientjes wrote: [...] > If the suggestion is checking > NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON > total_high_wmark pages, it would be a > separate heurstic to address a problem that I'm not having :) My issue is > specifically when NR_ACTIVE_FILE + NR_INACTIVE_FILE < total_high_wmark, > NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON is very large, but all not on this > lruvec's evictable lrus. Hmm, why are those pages not moved to the unevictable LRU lists? > This is the reason why I chose lruvec_lru_size() rather than per-node > statistics. The argument could also be made for the file lrus in the > get_scan_count() heuristic that forces SCAN_ANON, but I have not met such > an issue (yet). I could follow-up with that change or incorporate it into > a v2 of this patch if you'd prefer. > > In other words, I want get_scan_count() to not force SCAN_ANON and > fallback to SCAN_FRACT, absent other heuristics, if the amount of > evictable anon is below a certain threshold for this lruvec. I > arbitrarily chose SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX to be conservative, but I could easily > compare to total_high_wmark as well, although I would consider that more > aggressive. > > So we're in global reclaim, our file lrus are below thresholds, but we > don't want to force SCAN_ANON for all lruvecs if there's not enough to > reclaim from evictable anon. Do you have a suggestion for how to > implement this logic other than this patch? I agree that forcing SCAN_ANON without looking at the ANON lru size is not optimal but I would rather see the same criterion for both anon and file. get_scan_count is full of magic heuristics which tend to break for different workloads. Let's not add another magic on top please. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs
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| From | Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-18 09:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <txvAB-3i3-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1624965 |
On Mon 17-04-17 17:06:20, David Rientjes wrote:
> The purpose of the code that commit 623762517e23 ("revert 'mm: vmscan: do
> not swap anon pages just because free+file is low'") reintroduces is to
> prefer swapping anonymous memory rather than trashing the file lru.
>
> If all anonymous memory is unevictable, however, this insistance on
> SCAN_ANON ends up thrashing that lru instead.
Why would be the anonymous memory unevictable? If the swap is depleted
then we enforce file scanning AFAIR. Are those pages pinned somehow, by
who? It would be great if you could describe the workload which triggers
a problem which you are trying to fix.
> Check that enough evictable anon memory is actually on this lruvec before
> insisting on SCAN_ANON. SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is used as the threshold to
> determine if only scanning anon is beneficial.
>
> Otherwise, fallback to balanced reclaim so the file lru doesn't remain
> untouched.
Why should we treat anonymous and file pages any different here. In
other words why should file pages check for high wmark and anonymous for
SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.
[...]
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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