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Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] tpm: infrastructure for TPM spaces

Started byKen Goldman <kgoldman@us.ibm.com>
First post2017-03-22 21:20 +0100
Last post2017-03-23 17:00 +0100
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  Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] tpm: infrastructure for TPM spaces Ken Goldman <kgoldman@us.ibm.com> - 2017-03-22 21:20 +0100
    Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] tpm: infrastructure for TPM spaces Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-23 17:00 +0100

#1606959 — Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] tpm: infrastructure for TPM spaces

FromKen Goldman <kgoldman@us.ibm.com>
Date2017-03-22 21:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] tpm: infrastructure for TPM spaces
Message-ID<tnUTE-85w-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
On 2/22/2017 12:39 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
>
> Right at the moment the kernel use of tpm2 looks like
>
> acquire chip->tpm_mutex
> load key
> process key
> unload key
> release chip->tpm_mutex
>
> While it does this, there's no need for it to have a RM interface
> because what it does between the acquisition and drop of the mutex
> can't be seen by or have any effect on userspace (whether it uses the
> RM or not).  So currently, the question doesn't arise, which is the
> situation you see.

1 - This appears to depend on the RM not releasing the mutex until all 
objects are swapped out.  Correct?  Same for sessions?

2 - A startauthsession can cause a regap error.  Does the above depend 
on the RM doing early regapping so the RM won't see that error?

3 - There's also the problem where the TPM saved session slots 
(typically 64) are full.  My intuition is that the best solution is for 
the RM to reserve 3 slots for the kernel.

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FromJarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
Date2017-03-23 17:00 +0100
Message-ID<todjA-4ib-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1606959
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 04:09:21PM -0400, Ken Goldman wrote:
> On 2/22/2017 12:39 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> > 
> > Right at the moment the kernel use of tpm2 looks like
> > 
> > acquire chip->tpm_mutex
> > load key
> > process key
> > unload key
> > release chip->tpm_mutex
> > 
> > While it does this, there's no need for it to have a RM interface
> > because what it does between the acquisition and drop of the mutex
> > can't be seen by or have any effect on userspace (whether it uses the
> > RM or not).  So currently, the question doesn't arise, which is the
> > situation you see.
> 
> 1 - This appears to depend on the RM not releasing the mutex until all
> objects are swapped out.  Correct?  Same for sessions?

Yes.

> 2 - A startauthsession can cause a regap error.  Does the above depend on
> the RM doing early regapping so the RM won't see that error?

We are not trying to resolve that for 4.12. It can happen.

> 3 - There's also the problem where the TPM saved session slots (typically
> 64) are full.  My intuition is that the best solution is for the RM to
> reserve 3 slots for the kernel.

Maybe but at the moment kernel does not use sessions.

/Jarkko

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