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Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] tpm: introduce tpm_pcr_algo_to_crypto() and tpm_pcr_algo_from_crypto()

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  Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] tpm: introduce tpm_pcr_algo_to_crypto() and  tpm_pcr_algo_from_crypto() Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com> - 2017-05-30 12:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] tpm: introduce tpm_pcr_algo_to_crypto() and  tpm_pcr_algo_from_crypto() Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> - 2017-05-31 13:50 +0200

#1653083 — Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] tpm: introduce tpm_pcr_algo_to_crypto() and tpm_pcr_algo_from_crypto()

On 5/24/2017 10:25 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:33:54AM -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
>> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 09:21:28AM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>>> On 5/20/2017 3:22 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 04:22:22PM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>>>>> On 5/15/2017 1:16 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 04:21:49PM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>>>>>>> tpm_pcr_algorithms() returns to its callers the IDs of the hash algorithms
>>>>>>> supported by the TPM. This patch introduces tpm_pcr_algo_to_crypto(),
>>>>>>> so that the callers can use the crypto subsystem to calculate the digest
>>>>>>> to be passed to tpm_pcr_extend().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tpm_pcr_algo_from_crypto(), implemented for completeness, is instead used
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you mean by completeness? Please, never add unused stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> by tpm2_seal_trusted() to perform the opposite conversion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> v2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - fixed return values of tpm2_pcr_algo_to_crypto() and
>>>>>>>   tpm2_pcr_algo_from_crypto() if TPM support is disabled in the kernel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Change Log only to the cover letter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  drivers/char/tpm/tpm-interface.c | 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>  drivers/char/tpm/tpm2-cmd.c      | 42 +++++++++------------------------
>>>>>>>  include/linux/tpm.h              | 13 ++++++++++
>>>>>>>  3 files changed, 75 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This commit is just deadly wrong in so many ways.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest to make extend always just take crypto ID in so you
>>>>>> don't have to add these bizarre conversion functions.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason of this choice (as I explained in the cover letter)
>>>>> is that TPM users might want to produce an event log with
>>>>> the TCG format (which includes the TPM algorithm ID). Also,
>>>>> TPM IDs should be preferred because, with them, TPM users
>>>>> can calculate a digest directly with the TPM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking crypto IDs means relying on the fact that there
>>>>> is always a mapping between TPM IDs and crypto IDs.
>>>>> Otherwise, tpm_pcr_algorithms() cannot return the algorithms
>>>>> to its callers and PCRs cannot be extended. If TPM IDs are used,
>>>>> TPM users have two alternatives: calculate the digest with
>>>>> the TPM, or pass a SHA1 digest to tpm_pcr_extend(), so that
>>>>> it can be padded to extend remanining PCR banks.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, this second option will work only when the TPM driver
>>>>> determines the size of an algorithm without relying on the crypto
>>>>> subsystem. At the moment, if a TPM ID is not mapped to a crypto ID,
>>>>> tpm2_pcr_extend() ignores the digest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roberto
>>>>
>>>> What if tpm_pcr_algorithms would convert TPM IDs to crypto IDs?
>>>>
>>>> Externally other subsystems would have to then deal with only crypto
>>>> IDs.
>>>
>>> Then, other subsystems cannot:
>>>
>>> - use the TPM to calculate a digest
>>> - create an event log with the TCG format
>>>
>>> Roberto
>>
>> Can you open this up a bit? What is the use case that you canno
>> implement?
>>
>> /Jarkko
>
> The most important question is: are this used *right now*. If not, it is
> a definitive NAK. We don't want any future-proof code to the kernel.
> Always do the lowest common denominator in terms of generality and we
> will refactor from there when need arises.

This is still being discussed.

If we use crypto IDs, as you suggested, what it should be passed
to tpm_pcr_extend()? Or, probably to a new function (Mimi said that
changing the parameters of an existing function is not bisect-safe).

Roberto

-- 
HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH, HRB 56063
Managing Director: Bo PENG, Qiuen PENG, Shengli WANG

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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:24:21PM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> On 5/24/2017 10:25 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:33:54AM -0700, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 09:21:28AM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> > > > On 5/20/2017 3:22 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 04:22:22PM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> > > > > > On 5/15/2017 1:16 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 04:21:49PM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> > > > > > > > tpm_pcr_algorithms() returns to its callers the IDs of the hash algorithms
> > > > > > > > supported by the TPM. This patch introduces tpm_pcr_algo_to_crypto(),
> > > > > > > > so that the callers can use the crypto subsystem to calculate the digest
> > > > > > > > to be passed to tpm_pcr_extend().
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > tpm_pcr_algo_from_crypto(), implemented for completeness, is instead used
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What do you mean by completeness? Please, never add unused stuff.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > by tpm2_seal_trusted() to perform the opposite conversion.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > v2
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > - fixed return values of tpm2_pcr_algo_to_crypto() and
> > > > > > > >   tpm2_pcr_algo_from_crypto() if TPM support is disabled in the kernel
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Change Log only to the cover letter.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm-interface.c | 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm2-cmd.c      | 42 +++++++++------------------------
> > > > > > > >  include/linux/tpm.h              | 13 ++++++++++
> > > > > > > >  3 files changed, 75 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This commit is just deadly wrong in so many ways.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I would suggest to make extend always just take crypto ID in so you
> > > > > > > don't have to add these bizarre conversion functions.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The reason of this choice (as I explained in the cover letter)
> > > > > > is that TPM users might want to produce an event log with
> > > > > > the TCG format (which includes the TPM algorithm ID). Also,
> > > > > > TPM IDs should be preferred because, with them, TPM users
> > > > > > can calculate a digest directly with the TPM.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Taking crypto IDs means relying on the fact that there
> > > > > > is always a mapping between TPM IDs and crypto IDs.
> > > > > > Otherwise, tpm_pcr_algorithms() cannot return the algorithms
> > > > > > to its callers and PCRs cannot be extended. If TPM IDs are used,
> > > > > > TPM users have two alternatives: calculate the digest with
> > > > > > the TPM, or pass a SHA1 digest to tpm_pcr_extend(), so that
> > > > > > it can be padded to extend remanining PCR banks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > However, this second option will work only when the TPM driver
> > > > > > determines the size of an algorithm without relying on the crypto
> > > > > > subsystem. At the moment, if a TPM ID is not mapped to a crypto ID,
> > > > > > tpm2_pcr_extend() ignores the digest.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Roberto
> > > > > 
> > > > > What if tpm_pcr_algorithms would convert TPM IDs to crypto IDs?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Externally other subsystems would have to then deal with only crypto
> > > > > IDs.
> > > > 
> > > > Then, other subsystems cannot:
> > > > 
> > > > - use the TPM to calculate a digest
> > > > - create an event log with the TCG format
> > > > 
> > > > Roberto
> > > 
> > > Can you open this up a bit? What is the use case that you canno
> > > implement?
> > > 
> > > /Jarkko
> > 
> > The most important question is: are this used *right now*. If not, it is
> > a definitive NAK. We don't want any future-proof code to the kernel.
> > Always do the lowest common denominator in terms of generality and we
> > will refactor from there when need arises.
> 
> This is still being discussed.
> 
> If we use crypto IDs, as you suggested, what it should be passed
> to tpm_pcr_extend()? Or, probably to a new function (Mimi said that
> changing the parameters of an existing function is not bisect-safe).
> 
> Roberto
> 
> -- 
> HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH, HRB 56063
> Managing Director: Bo PENG, Qiuen PENG, Shengli WANG

Parameters should be changed when it makes sense to do so. It makes
sense in this case.

/Jarkko

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