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Re: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc

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First post2017-01-24 16:20 +0100
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  Re: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-01-24 16:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 17:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-01-25 14:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 20:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-01-25 14:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-01-25 14:30 +0100

#1565937 — Re: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc

FromMichal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Date2017-01-24 16:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH 0/6 v3] kvmalloc
Message-ID<t3b34-5VZ-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
On Thu 12-01-17 16:37:11, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Hi,
> this has been previously posted as a single patch [1] but later on more
> built on top. It turned out that there are users who would like to have
> __GFP_REPEAT semantic. This is currently implemented for costly >64B
> requests. Doing the same for smaller requests would require to redefine
> __GFP_REPEAT semantic in the page allocator which is out of scope of
> this series.
> 
> There are many open coded kmalloc with vmalloc fallback instances in
> the tree.  Most of them are not careful enough or simply do not care
> about the underlying semantic of the kmalloc/page allocator which means
> that a) some vmalloc fallbacks are basically unreachable because the
> kmalloc part will keep retrying until it succeeds b) the page allocator
> can invoke a really disruptive steps like the OOM killer to move forward
> which doesn't sound appropriate when we consider that the vmalloc
> fallback is available.
> 
> As it can be seen implementing kvmalloc requires quite an intimate
> knowledge if the page allocator and the memory reclaim internals which
> strongly suggests that a helper should be implemented in the memory
> subsystem proper.
> 
> Most callers I could find have been converted to use the helper instead.
> This is patch 5. There are some more relying on __GFP_REPEAT in the
> networking stack which I have converted as well but considering we do
> not have a support for __GFP_REPEAT for requests smaller than 64kB I
> have marked it RFC.

Are there any more comments? I would really appreciate to hear from
networking folks before I resubmit the series.

Thanks!

> [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20170102133700.1734-1-mhocko@kernel.org
> 

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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#1565964

FromEric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-24 17:10 +0100
Message-ID<t3bPs-6sB-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1565937
On Tue, 2017-01-24 at 16:17 +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 12-01-17 16:37:11, Michal Hocko wrote:

> Are there any more comments? I would really appreciate to hear from
> networking folks before I resubmit the series.

I do not see any issues right now.

I am happy to see this thing finally coming, after years of
resistance ;)

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#1566581

FromMichal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Date2017-01-25 14:20 +0100
Message-ID<t3vEt-2eb-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1565964
On Tue 24-01-17 08:00:26, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-01-24 at 16:17 +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 12-01-17 16:37:11, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > Are there any more comments? I would really appreciate to hear from
> > networking folks before I resubmit the series.
> 
> I do not see any issues right now.
> 
> I am happy to see this thing finally coming, after years of
> resistance ;)

OK, so I will repost the series and ask Andrew for inclusion
after it passes my compile test battery after the rebase.
 
Thanks!
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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#1566077

FromAlexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-24 20:20 +0100
Message-ID<t3eNj-8fN-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1565937
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 04:17:52PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 12-01-17 16:37:11, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Hi,
> > this has been previously posted as a single patch [1] but later on more
> > built on top. It turned out that there are users who would like to have
> > __GFP_REPEAT semantic. This is currently implemented for costly >64B
> > requests. Doing the same for smaller requests would require to redefine
> > __GFP_REPEAT semantic in the page allocator which is out of scope of
> > this series.
> > 
> > There are many open coded kmalloc with vmalloc fallback instances in
> > the tree.  Most of them are not careful enough or simply do not care
> > about the underlying semantic of the kmalloc/page allocator which means
> > that a) some vmalloc fallbacks are basically unreachable because the
> > kmalloc part will keep retrying until it succeeds b) the page allocator
> > can invoke a really disruptive steps like the OOM killer to move forward
> > which doesn't sound appropriate when we consider that the vmalloc
> > fallback is available.
> > 
> > As it can be seen implementing kvmalloc requires quite an intimate
> > knowledge if the page allocator and the memory reclaim internals which
> > strongly suggests that a helper should be implemented in the memory
> > subsystem proper.
> > 
> > Most callers I could find have been converted to use the helper instead.
> > This is patch 5. There are some more relying on __GFP_REPEAT in the
> > networking stack which I have converted as well but considering we do
> > not have a support for __GFP_REPEAT for requests smaller than 64kB I
> > have marked it RFC.
> 
> Are there any more comments? I would really appreciate to hear from
> networking folks before I resubmit the series.

while this patchset was baking the bpf side switched to use bpf_map_area_alloc()
which fixes the issue with missing __GFP_NORETRY that we had to fix quickly.
See commit d407bd25a204 ("bpf: don't trigger OOM killer under pressure with map alloc")
it covers all kmalloc/vmalloc pairs instead of just one place as in this set.
So please rebase and switch bpf_map_area_alloc() to use kvmalloc().
Thanks

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#1566584

FromMichal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Date2017-01-25 14:20 +0100
Message-ID<t3vEv-2eb-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1566077
On Tue 24-01-17 11:17:21, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 04:17:52PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 12-01-17 16:37:11, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > this has been previously posted as a single patch [1] but later on more
> > > built on top. It turned out that there are users who would like to have
> > > __GFP_REPEAT semantic. This is currently implemented for costly >64B
> > > requests. Doing the same for smaller requests would require to redefine
> > > __GFP_REPEAT semantic in the page allocator which is out of scope of
> > > this series.
> > > 
> > > There are many open coded kmalloc with vmalloc fallback instances in
> > > the tree.  Most of them are not careful enough or simply do not care
> > > about the underlying semantic of the kmalloc/page allocator which means
> > > that a) some vmalloc fallbacks are basically unreachable because the
> > > kmalloc part will keep retrying until it succeeds b) the page allocator
> > > can invoke a really disruptive steps like the OOM killer to move forward
> > > which doesn't sound appropriate when we consider that the vmalloc
> > > fallback is available.
> > > 
> > > As it can be seen implementing kvmalloc requires quite an intimate
> > > knowledge if the page allocator and the memory reclaim internals which
> > > strongly suggests that a helper should be implemented in the memory
> > > subsystem proper.
> > > 
> > > Most callers I could find have been converted to use the helper instead.
> > > This is patch 5. There are some more relying on __GFP_REPEAT in the
> > > networking stack which I have converted as well but considering we do
> > > not have a support for __GFP_REPEAT for requests smaller than 64kB I
> > > have marked it RFC.
> > 
> > Are there any more comments? I would really appreciate to hear from
> > networking folks before I resubmit the series.
> 
> while this patchset was baking the bpf side switched to use bpf_map_area_alloc()
> which fixes the issue with missing __GFP_NORETRY that we had to fix quickly.
> See commit d407bd25a204 ("bpf: don't trigger OOM killer under pressure with map alloc")
> it covers all kmalloc/vmalloc pairs instead of just one place as in this set.
> So please rebase and switch bpf_map_area_alloc() to use kvmalloc().

OK, will do. Thanks for the heads up.


-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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#1566588

FromMichal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Date2017-01-25 14:30 +0100
Message-ID<t3vO9-2hC-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1566584
On Wed 25-01-17 14:10:06, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 24-01-17 11:17:21, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 04:17:52PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 12-01-17 16:37:11, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > this has been previously posted as a single patch [1] but later on more
> > > > built on top. It turned out that there are users who would like to have
> > > > __GFP_REPEAT semantic. This is currently implemented for costly >64B
> > > > requests. Doing the same for smaller requests would require to redefine
> > > > __GFP_REPEAT semantic in the page allocator which is out of scope of
> > > > this series.
> > > > 
> > > > There are many open coded kmalloc with vmalloc fallback instances in
> > > > the tree.  Most of them are not careful enough or simply do not care
> > > > about the underlying semantic of the kmalloc/page allocator which means
> > > > that a) some vmalloc fallbacks are basically unreachable because the
> > > > kmalloc part will keep retrying until it succeeds b) the page allocator
> > > > can invoke a really disruptive steps like the OOM killer to move forward
> > > > which doesn't sound appropriate when we consider that the vmalloc
> > > > fallback is available.
> > > > 
> > > > As it can be seen implementing kvmalloc requires quite an intimate
> > > > knowledge if the page allocator and the memory reclaim internals which
> > > > strongly suggests that a helper should be implemented in the memory
> > > > subsystem proper.
> > > > 
> > > > Most callers I could find have been converted to use the helper instead.
> > > > This is patch 5. There are some more relying on __GFP_REPEAT in the
> > > > networking stack which I have converted as well but considering we do
> > > > not have a support for __GFP_REPEAT for requests smaller than 64kB I
> > > > have marked it RFC.
> > > 
> > > Are there any more comments? I would really appreciate to hear from
> > > networking folks before I resubmit the series.
> > 
> > while this patchset was baking the bpf side switched to use bpf_map_area_alloc()
> > which fixes the issue with missing __GFP_NORETRY that we had to fix quickly.
> > See commit d407bd25a204 ("bpf: don't trigger OOM killer under pressure with map alloc")
> > it covers all kmalloc/vmalloc pairs instead of just one place as in this set.
> > So please rebase and switch bpf_map_area_alloc() to use kvmalloc().
> 
> OK, will do. Thanks for the heads up.

Just for the record, I will fold the following into the patch 1
---
diff --git a/kernel/bpf/syscall.c b/kernel/bpf/syscall.c
index 19b6129eab23..8697f43cf93c 100644
--- a/kernel/bpf/syscall.c
+++ b/kernel/bpf/syscall.c
@@ -53,21 +53,7 @@ void bpf_register_map_type(struct bpf_map_type_list *tl)
 
 void *bpf_map_area_alloc(size_t size)
 {
-	/* We definitely need __GFP_NORETRY, so OOM killer doesn't
-	 * trigger under memory pressure as we really just want to
-	 * fail instead.
-	 */
-	const gfp_t flags = __GFP_NOWARN | __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_ZERO;
-	void *area;
-
-	if (size <= (PAGE_SIZE << PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER)) {
-		area = kmalloc(size, GFP_USER | flags);
-		if (area != NULL)
-			return area;
-	}
-
-	return __vmalloc(size, GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_HIGHMEM | flags,
-			 PAGE_KERNEL);
+	return kvzalloc(size, GFP_USER);
 }
 
 void bpf_map_area_free(void *area)

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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