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  Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with  linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ? Jason Vas Dias <jason.vas.dias@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 13:10 +0200
    Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with  linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ? Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> - 2016-10-17 19:30 +0200
      Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with  linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ? Boris Barbulovski <bbarbulovski@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 22:50 +0200
        Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with  linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ? Boris Barbulovski <bbarbulovski@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 23:00 +0200
          Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with  linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ? Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> - 2016-10-24 03:20 +0200
        Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with  linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ? Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> - 2016-10-18 00:40 +0200

#1501268 — Re: please, where has xconfig KConf option documentation gone with linux 4.8's Qt5 / Qt4 xconfig ?

 Aha, thanks! I never would have known this without being told -
 there is no visible indication that the symbol info pane exists
 at all until one tries to drag the lower right corner of the window
 notth-eastwards - is this meant to be somehow an intuitive thing to
 do these days to view more info ?

 I did manage to view the option documentation with nconfig  /
 using emacs to view the KConf files (preferable).

 Really, it would be nice if xconfig had some 'View' Menu & one could select
 View -> Option Documentation  or press <F1> over an option to view the
 documentation for it , and if the geometry of the different panes was
correct at
 startup .- the whole Option value pane initially appears on the far right hand
 side, about 10 pixels wide , until resized ; and there really is no sign of the
 documentation pane at all until lower right-hand corner dragged.

 Also, in the Help -> Introduction panel, it says :
   "Toggling Show Debug Info under the Options menu will show the
dependencies..."
 but there is no "Show Debug Info" option on the Options menu - sounds like
 it might be a useful feature - should I be seeing a "Show Debug Info" option ?
 why don't I see one ?  Maybe the Options menu might be a good place to put
 an "Expand Option Documentation Pane" option ?

Thanks anyway for the info.

Regards,
Jason




On 11/10/2016, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
> [changed linux-config to linux-kbuild list]
>
> On 10/09/16 13:46, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>> Hi -
>> I've been doing 'make xconfig'  to configure the kernel for many years
>> now, and
>> always there used to be some option documentation pane populated with
>> summary documentation for the specific option selected .
>> But now,  when built for Qt 5.7.0, (also tried Qt 4.8 and GTK) there
>> is no option
>> documentation pane - this is a real pain !  The option documentation also
>> is not displayed with any other gui, eg.  'make menuconfig' / 'make
>> gtkconfig' -
>> I'm sure it used to be . This is a regression IMHO .
>> How can I restore display of documentation for each selected option ?
>> Will older xconfig work for Linux 4.8 ? it appears not ...
>> Thanks in advance for any replies,
>> Jason
>
> That's odd. I see the help info in all of xconfig, gconfig, menuconfig, &
> nconfig.
>
> In xconfig, if the right hand side of the config window only lists some
> kernel config
> options and no symbol help/info, the symbol info portion may be hidden. Try
> pointing
> to the bottom of the right side of the window and hold down the left mouse
> button
> and then drag the mouse pointer upward to open the symbol info pane.
> At least that is what works for me.
>
> --
> ~Randy
>

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#1502288

Boris or Thiago,

Any comments, suggestions, or patches about this?

thanks.

On 10/15/16 04:09, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>  Aha, thanks! I never would have known this without being told -
>  there is no visible indication that the symbol info pane exists
>  at all until one tries to drag the lower right corner of the window
>  notth-eastwards - is this meant to be somehow an intuitive thing to
>  do these days to view more info ?
> 
>  I did manage to view the option documentation with nconfig  /
>  using emacs to view the KConf files (preferable).
> 
>  Really, it would be nice if xconfig had some 'View' Menu & one could select
>  View -> Option Documentation  or press <F1> over an option to view the
>  documentation for it , and if the geometry of the different panes was
> correct at
>  startup .- the whole Option value pane initially appears on the far right hand
>  side, about 10 pixels wide , until resized ; and there really is no sign of the
>  documentation pane at all until lower right-hand corner dragged.
> 
>  Also, in the Help -> Introduction panel, it says :
>    "Toggling Show Debug Info under the Options menu will show the
> dependencies..."
>  but there is no "Show Debug Info" option on the Options menu - sounds like
>  it might be a useful feature - should I be seeing a "Show Debug Info" option ?
>  why don't I see one ?  Maybe the Options menu might be a good place to put
>  an "Expand Option Documentation Pane" option ?
> 
> Thanks anyway for the info.
> 
> Regards,
> Jason
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/10/2016, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>> [changed linux-config to linux-kbuild list]
>>
>> On 10/09/16 13:46, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> I've been doing 'make xconfig'  to configure the kernel for many years
>>> now, and
>>> always there used to be some option documentation pane populated with
>>> summary documentation for the specific option selected .
>>> But now,  when built for Qt 5.7.0, (also tried Qt 4.8 and GTK) there
>>> is no option
>>> documentation pane - this is a real pain !  The option documentation also
>>> is not displayed with any other gui, eg.  'make menuconfig' / 'make
>>> gtkconfig' -
>>> I'm sure it used to be . This is a regression IMHO .
>>> How can I restore display of documentation for each selected option ?
>>> Will older xconfig work for Linux 4.8 ? it appears not ...
>>> Thanks in advance for any replies,
>>> Jason
>>
>> That's odd. I see the help info in all of xconfig, gconfig, menuconfig, &
>> nconfig.
>>
>> In xconfig, if the right hand side of the config window only lists some
>> kernel config
>> options and no symbol help/info, the symbol info portion may be hidden. Try
>> pointing
>> to the bottom of the right side of the window and hold down the left mouse
>> button
>> and then drag the mouse pointer upward to open the symbol info pane.
>> At least that is what works for me.
>>
>> --
>> ~Randy


-- 
~Randy

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#1502443

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can you try this patch?



On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
> Boris or Thiago,
>
> Any comments, suggestions, or patches about this?
>
> thanks.
>
> On 10/15/16 04:09, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>  Aha, thanks! I never would have known this without being told -
>>  there is no visible indication that the symbol info pane exists
>>  at all until one tries to drag the lower right corner of the window
>>  notth-eastwards - is this meant to be somehow an intuitive thing to
>>  do these days to view more info ?
>>
>>  I did manage to view the option documentation with nconfig  /
>>  using emacs to view the KConf files (preferable).
>>
>>  Really, it would be nice if xconfig had some 'View' Menu & one could select
>>  View -> Option Documentation  or press <F1> over an option to view the
>>  documentation for it , and if the geometry of the different panes was
>> correct at
>>  startup .- the whole Option value pane initially appears on the far right hand
>>  side, about 10 pixels wide , until resized ; and there really is no sign of the
>>  documentation pane at all until lower right-hand corner dragged.
>>
>>  Also, in the Help -> Introduction panel, it says :
>>    "Toggling Show Debug Info under the Options menu will show the
>> dependencies..."
>>  but there is no "Show Debug Info" option on the Options menu - sounds like
>>  it might be a useful feature - should I be seeing a "Show Debug Info" option ?
>>  why don't I see one ?  Maybe the Options menu might be a good place to put
>>  an "Expand Option Documentation Pane" option ?
>>
>> Thanks anyway for the info.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2016, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>>> [changed linux-config to linux-kbuild list]
>>>
>>> On 10/09/16 13:46, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>>> Hi -
>>>> I've been doing 'make xconfig'  to configure the kernel for many years
>>>> now, and
>>>> always there used to be some option documentation pane populated with
>>>> summary documentation for the specific option selected .
>>>> But now,  when built for Qt 5.7.0, (also tried Qt 4.8 and GTK) there
>>>> is no option
>>>> documentation pane - this is a real pain !  The option documentation also
>>>> is not displayed with any other gui, eg.  'make menuconfig' / 'make
>>>> gtkconfig' -
>>>> I'm sure it used to be . This is a regression IMHO .
>>>> How can I restore display of documentation for each selected option ?
>>>> Will older xconfig work for Linux 4.8 ? it appears not ...
>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies,
>>>> Jason
>>>
>>> That's odd. I see the help info in all of xconfig, gconfig, menuconfig, &
>>> nconfig.
>>>
>>> In xconfig, if the right hand side of the config window only lists some
>>> kernel config
>>> options and no symbol help/info, the symbol info portion may be hidden. Try
>>> pointing
>>> to the bottom of the right side of the window and hold down the left mouse
>>> button
>>> and then drag the mouse pointer upward to open the symbol info pane.
>>> At least that is what works for me.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~Randy
>
>
> --
> ~Randy



-- 
Boris Barbulovski
http://mkfusion.bokicsoft.com/

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#1502446

And make sure to delete ~/.config/kernel.org/qconf.conf file before
testing because it might have some illegal settings that might trigger
the same issue again.


On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Boris Barbulovski
<bbarbulovski@gmail.com> wrote:
> can you try this patch?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>> Boris or Thiago,
>>
>> Any comments, suggestions, or patches about this?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> On 10/15/16 04:09, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>>  Aha, thanks! I never would have known this without being told -
>>>  there is no visible indication that the symbol info pane exists
>>>  at all until one tries to drag the lower right corner of the window
>>>  notth-eastwards - is this meant to be somehow an intuitive thing to
>>>  do these days to view more info ?
>>>
>>>  I did manage to view the option documentation with nconfig  /
>>>  using emacs to view the KConf files (preferable).
>>>
>>>  Really, it would be nice if xconfig had some 'View' Menu & one could select
>>>  View -> Option Documentation  or press <F1> over an option to view the
>>>  documentation for it , and if the geometry of the different panes was
>>> correct at
>>>  startup .- the whole Option value pane initially appears on the far right hand
>>>  side, about 10 pixels wide , until resized ; and there really is no sign of the
>>>  documentation pane at all until lower right-hand corner dragged.
>>>
>>>  Also, in the Help -> Introduction panel, it says :
>>>    "Toggling Show Debug Info under the Options menu will show the
>>> dependencies..."
>>>  but there is no "Show Debug Info" option on the Options menu - sounds like
>>>  it might be a useful feature - should I be seeing a "Show Debug Info" option ?
>>>  why don't I see one ?  Maybe the Options menu might be a good place to put
>>>  an "Expand Option Documentation Pane" option ?
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway for the info.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2016, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>>>> [changed linux-config to linux-kbuild list]
>>>>
>>>> On 10/09/16 13:46, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>> I've been doing 'make xconfig'  to configure the kernel for many years
>>>>> now, and
>>>>> always there used to be some option documentation pane populated with
>>>>> summary documentation for the specific option selected .
>>>>> But now,  when built for Qt 5.7.0, (also tried Qt 4.8 and GTK) there
>>>>> is no option
>>>>> documentation pane - this is a real pain !  The option documentation also
>>>>> is not displayed with any other gui, eg.  'make menuconfig' / 'make
>>>>> gtkconfig' -
>>>>> I'm sure it used to be . This is a regression IMHO .
>>>>> How can I restore display of documentation for each selected option ?
>>>>> Will older xconfig work for Linux 4.8 ? it appears not ...
>>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies,
>>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> That's odd. I see the help info in all of xconfig, gconfig, menuconfig, &
>>>> nconfig.
>>>>
>>>> In xconfig, if the right hand side of the config window only lists some
>>>> kernel config
>>>> options and no symbol help/info, the symbol info portion may be hidden. Try
>>>> pointing
>>>> to the bottom of the right side of the window and hold down the left mouse
>>>> button
>>>> and then drag the mouse pointer upward to open the symbol info pane.
>>>> At least that is what works for me.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~Randy
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~Randy
>
>
>
> --
> Boris Barbulovski
> http://mkfusion.bokicsoft.com/



-- 
Boris Barbulovski
http://mkfusion.bokicsoft.com/

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#1506818

On 10/17/16 13:50, Boris Barbulovski wrote:
> And make sure to delete ~/.config/kernel.org/qconf.conf file before
> testing because it might have some illegal settings that might trigger
> the same issue again.
> 

I tested it and it seems to do the right thing.
Tested-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>

If this patch isn't already in the linux-kconfig tree, please add it for more testing.

> 
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Boris Barbulovski
> <bbarbulovski@gmail.com> wrote:
>> can you try this patch?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>>> Boris or Thiago,
>>>
>>> Any comments, suggestions, or patches about this?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> On 10/15/16 04:09, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>>>  Aha, thanks! I never would have known this without being told -
>>>>  there is no visible indication that the symbol info pane exists
>>>>  at all until one tries to drag the lower right corner of the window
>>>>  notth-eastwards - is this meant to be somehow an intuitive thing to
>>>>  do these days to view more info ?
>>>>
>>>>  I did manage to view the option documentation with nconfig  /
>>>>  using emacs to view the KConf files (preferable).
>>>>
>>>>  Really, it would be nice if xconfig had some 'View' Menu & one could select
>>>>  View -> Option Documentation  or press <F1> over an option to view the
>>>>  documentation for it , and if the geometry of the different panes was
>>>> correct at
>>>>  startup .- the whole Option value pane initially appears on the far right hand
>>>>  side, about 10 pixels wide , until resized ; and there really is no sign of the
>>>>  documentation pane at all until lower right-hand corner dragged.
>>>>
>>>>  Also, in the Help -> Introduction panel, it says :
>>>>    "Toggling Show Debug Info under the Options menu will show the
>>>> dependencies..."
>>>>  but there is no "Show Debug Info" option on the Options menu - sounds like
>>>>  it might be a useful feature - should I be seeing a "Show Debug Info" option ?
>>>>  why don't I see one ?  Maybe the Options menu might be a good place to put
>>>>  an "Expand Option Documentation Pane" option ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks anyway for the info.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2016, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>>>>> [changed linux-config to linux-kbuild list]
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/09/16 13:46, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>> I've been doing 'make xconfig'  to configure the kernel for many years
>>>>>> now, and
>>>>>> always there used to be some option documentation pane populated with
>>>>>> summary documentation for the specific option selected .
>>>>>> But now,  when built for Qt 5.7.0, (also tried Qt 4.8 and GTK) there
>>>>>> is no option
>>>>>> documentation pane - this is a real pain !  The option documentation also
>>>>>> is not displayed with any other gui, eg.  'make menuconfig' / 'make
>>>>>> gtkconfig' -
>>>>>> I'm sure it used to be . This is a regression IMHO .
>>>>>> How can I restore display of documentation for each selected option ?
>>>>>> Will older xconfig work for Linux 4.8 ? it appears not ...
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies,
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> That's odd. I see the help info in all of xconfig, gconfig, menuconfig, &
>>>>> nconfig.
>>>>>
>>>>> In xconfig, if the right hand side of the config window only lists some
>>>>> kernel config
>>>>> options and no symbol help/info, the symbol info portion may be hidden. Try
>>>>> pointing
>>>>> to the bottom of the right side of the window and hold down the left mouse
>>>>> button
>>>>> and then drag the mouse pointer upward to open the symbol info pane.
>>>>> At least that is what works for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ~Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~Randy
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Boris Barbulovski
>> http://mkfusion.bokicsoft.com/


-- 
~Randy

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#1502559

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[adding Jason for testing]

On 10/17/16 13:43, Boris Barbulovski wrote:
> can you try this patch?
> 

And make sure to delete ~/.config/kernel.org/qconf.conf file before
testing because it might have some illegal settings that might trigger
the same issue again.

[patch is attached]

> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>> Boris or Thiago,
>>
>> Any comments, suggestions, or patches about this?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> On 10/15/16 04:09, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>>  Aha, thanks! I never would have known this without being told -
>>>  there is no visible indication that the symbol info pane exists
>>>  at all until one tries to drag the lower right corner of the window
>>>  notth-eastwards - is this meant to be somehow an intuitive thing to
>>>  do these days to view more info ?
>>>
>>>  I did manage to view the option documentation with nconfig  /
>>>  using emacs to view the KConf files (preferable).
>>>
>>>  Really, it would be nice if xconfig had some 'View' Menu & one could select
>>>  View -> Option Documentation  or press <F1> over an option to view the
>>>  documentation for it , and if the geometry of the different panes was
>>> correct at
>>>  startup .- the whole Option value pane initially appears on the far right hand
>>>  side, about 10 pixels wide , until resized ; and there really is no sign of the
>>>  documentation pane at all until lower right-hand corner dragged.
>>>
>>>  Also, in the Help -> Introduction panel, it says :
>>>    "Toggling Show Debug Info under the Options menu will show the
>>> dependencies..."
>>>  but there is no "Show Debug Info" option on the Options menu - sounds like
>>>  it might be a useful feature - should I be seeing a "Show Debug Info" option ?
>>>  why don't I see one ?  Maybe the Options menu might be a good place to put
>>>  an "Expand Option Documentation Pane" option ?
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway for the info.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2016, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>>>> [changed linux-config to linux-kbuild list]
>>>>
>>>> On 10/09/16 13:46, Jason Vas Dias wrote:
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>> I've been doing 'make xconfig'  to configure the kernel for many years
>>>>> now, and
>>>>> always there used to be some option documentation pane populated with
>>>>> summary documentation for the specific option selected .
>>>>> But now,  when built for Qt 5.7.0, (also tried Qt 4.8 and GTK) there
>>>>> is no option
>>>>> documentation pane - this is a real pain !  The option documentation also
>>>>> is not displayed with any other gui, eg.  'make menuconfig' / 'make
>>>>> gtkconfig' -
>>>>> I'm sure it used to be . This is a regression IMHO .
>>>>> How can I restore display of documentation for each selected option ?
>>>>> Will older xconfig work for Linux 4.8 ? it appears not ...
>>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies,
>>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> That's odd. I see the help info in all of xconfig, gconfig, menuconfig, &
>>>> nconfig.
>>>>
>>>> In xconfig, if the right hand side of the config window only lists some
>>>> kernel config
>>>> options and no symbol help/info, the symbol info portion may be hidden. Try
>>>> pointing
>>>> to the bottom of the right side of the window and hold down the left mouse
>>>> button
>>>> and then drag the mouse pointer upward to open the symbol info pane.
>>>> At least that is what works for me.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~Randy
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~Randy
> 
> 
> 


-- 
~Randy

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