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Re: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process()

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First post2016-10-18 15:50 +0200
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  Re: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process() Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org> - 2016-10-18 15:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process() Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> - 2016-10-18 22:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process() Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org> - 2016-10-20 11:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of  wake_up_process() Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2016-10-20 12:00 +0200

#1503004 — Re: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process()

FromDaniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>
Date2016-10-18 15:50 +0200
SubjectRe: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process()
Message-ID<stCWf-2lM-55@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi Doug,

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
> Users of usleep_range() expect that it will _never_ return in less time
> than the minimum passed parameter.  However, nothing in any of the code
> ensures this.  Specifically:
>
> usleep_range() => do_usleep_range() => schedule_hrtimeout_range() =>
> schedule_hrtimeout_range_clock() just ends up calling schedule() with an
> appropriate timeout set using the hrtimer.  If someone else happens to
> wake up our task then we'll happily return from usleep_range() early.

I think this change works, and fixes a real issue, however, I don't
think you are fixing this at the right layer.
The comment for schedule_hrtimeout_range says:

/**
 * schedule_hrtimeout_range - sleep until timeout
 * @expires:    timeout value (ktime_t)
 * @delta:      slack in expires timeout (ktime_t)
 * @mode:       timer mode, HRTIMER_MODE_ABS or HRTIMER_MODE_REL
 *
 * Make the current task sleep until the given expiry time has
 * elapsed. The routine will return immediately unless
 * the current task state has been set (see set_current_state()).
 *
 * The @delta argument gives the kernel the freedom to schedule the
 * actual wakeup to a time that is both power and performance friendly.
 * The kernel give the normal best effort behavior for "@expires+@delta",
 * but may decide to fire the timer earlier, but no earlier than @expires.
 *
 * You can set the task state as follows -
 *
 * %TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE - at least @timeout time is guaranteed to
 * pass before the routine returns.
 *
 * %TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE - the routine may return early if a signal is
 * delivered to the current task.
 *
 * The current task state is guaranteed to be TASK_RUNNING when this
 * routine returns.
 *
 * Returns 0 when the timer has expired otherwise -EINTR
 */

The behavior as specified for this function "at least @timeout time is
guaranteed to pass before the routine returns" already guarantees the
behavior you are adding to do_usleep_range() whenever the current task
state is (pre-)set to TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE.

Thus, I think the loop around 'schedule()' should be moved to
schedule_hrtimeout_range() itself.
This would also fix direct callers of schedule_hrtimeout_range() that
use TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, although, I could only find one:

pt3_fetch_thread()

-Dan

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#1503326

FromDoug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Date2016-10-18 22:30 +0200
Message-ID<stJbj-6WG-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1503004
Dan,

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org> wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
>> Users of usleep_range() expect that it will _never_ return in less time
>> than the minimum passed parameter.  However, nothing in any of the code
>> ensures this.  Specifically:
>>
>> usleep_range() => do_usleep_range() => schedule_hrtimeout_range() =>
>> schedule_hrtimeout_range_clock() just ends up calling schedule() with an
>> appropriate timeout set using the hrtimer.  If someone else happens to
>> wake up our task then we'll happily return from usleep_range() early.
>
> I think this change works, and fixes a real issue, however, I don't
> think you are fixing this at the right layer.
> The comment for schedule_hrtimeout_range says:
>
> /**
>  * schedule_hrtimeout_range - sleep until timeout
>  * @expires:    timeout value (ktime_t)
>  * @delta:      slack in expires timeout (ktime_t)
>  * @mode:       timer mode, HRTIMER_MODE_ABS or HRTIMER_MODE_REL
>  *
>  * Make the current task sleep until the given expiry time has
>  * elapsed. The routine will return immediately unless
>  * the current task state has been set (see set_current_state()).
>  *
>  * The @delta argument gives the kernel the freedom to schedule the
>  * actual wakeup to a time that is both power and performance friendly.
>  * The kernel give the normal best effort behavior for "@expires+@delta",
>  * but may decide to fire the timer earlier, but no earlier than @expires.
>  *
>  * You can set the task state as follows -
>  *
>  * %TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE - at least @timeout time is guaranteed to
>  * pass before the routine returns.
>  *
>  * %TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE - the routine may return early if a signal is
>  * delivered to the current task.
>  *
>  * The current task state is guaranteed to be TASK_RUNNING when this
>  * routine returns.
>  *
>  * Returns 0 when the timer has expired otherwise -EINTR
>  */
>
> The behavior as specified for this function "at least @timeout time is
> guaranteed to pass before the routine returns" already guarantees the
> behavior you are adding to do_usleep_range() whenever the current task
> state is (pre-)set to TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE.
>
> Thus, I think the loop around 'schedule()' should be moved to
> schedule_hrtimeout_range() itself.
> This would also fix direct callers of schedule_hrtimeout_range() that
> use TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, although, I could only find one:
>
> pt3_fetch_thread()

Hmmm, I would agree with you that the behavior of
schedule_hrtimeout_range() doesn't seem to match the function
comments.

...but I'm not sure I agree with you about what to do here.
Specifically I think that whatever we do we need to try to keep
schedule_hrtimeout_range() and schedule_timeout() parallel.  For
schedule_timeout() we have the same comments but it's my understanding
that you'd expect that wake_up_process() would wake it up.  In any
case, if wake_up_process() doesn't wake it up then it seems like
msleep() and schedule_timeout_uninterruptible() are the same function
with two names, when in fact one is implemented in terms o the other.

NOTE that also it seems as if we need some other return values besides
0 and -EINTR from schedule_hrtimeout_range() (again, to match
schedule_timeout()) since right now we'll return -EINTR if we were
woken up with wake_up_process().  This would be unexpected in the case
where we had TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE set.

-Doug

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#1504660

FromDaniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>
Date2016-10-20 11:00 +0200
Message-ID<suhmF-5dC-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1503326
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:29 AM, Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org> wrote:
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
> >> Users of usleep_range() expect that it will _never_ return in less time
> >> than the minimum passed parameter.  However, nothing in any of the code
> >> ensures this.  Specifically:
> >>
> >> usleep_range() => do_usleep_range() => schedule_hrtimeout_range() =>
> >> schedule_hrtimeout_range_clock() just ends up calling schedule() with an
> >> appropriate timeout set using the hrtimer.  If someone else happens to
> >> wake up our task then we'll happily return from usleep_range() early.
> >
> > I think this change works, and fixes a real issue, however, I don't
> > think you are fixing this at the right layer.
> > The comment for schedule_hrtimeout_range says:
> >
> > /**
> >  * schedule_hrtimeout_range - sleep until timeout
> >  * @expires:    timeout value (ktime_t)
> >  * @delta:      slack in expires timeout (ktime_t)
> >  * @mode:       timer mode, HRTIMER_MODE_ABS or HRTIMER_MODE_REL
> >  *
> >  * Make the current task sleep until the given expiry time has
> >  * elapsed. The routine will return immediately unless
> >  * the current task state has been set (see set_current_state()).
> >  *
> >  * The @delta argument gives the kernel the freedom to schedule the
> >  * actual wakeup to a time that is both power and performance friendly.
> >  * The kernel give the normal best effort behavior for "@expires+@delta",
> >  * but may decide to fire the timer earlier, but no earlier than @expires.
> >  *
> >  * You can set the task state as follows -
> >  *
> >  * %TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE - at least @timeout time is guaranteed to
> >  * pass before the routine returns.
> >  *
> >  * %TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE - the routine may return early if a signal is
> >  * delivered to the current task.
> >  *
> >  * The current task state is guaranteed to be TASK_RUNNING when this
> >  * routine returns.
> >  *
> >  * Returns 0 when the timer has expired otherwise -EINTR
> >  */
> >
> > The behavior as specified for this function "at least @timeout time is
> > guaranteed to pass before the routine returns" already guarantees the
> > behavior you are adding to do_usleep_range() whenever the current task
> > state is (pre-)set to TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE.
> >
> > Thus, I think the loop around 'schedule()' should be moved to
> > schedule_hrtimeout_range() itself.
> > This would also fix direct callers of schedule_hrtimeout_range() that
> > use TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, although, I could only find one:
> >
> > pt3_fetch_thread()
>
> Hmmm, I would agree with you that the behavior of
> schedule_hrtimeout_range() doesn't seem to match the function
> comments.
>
> ...but I'm not sure I agree with you about what to do here.
> Specifically I think that whatever we do we need to try to keep
> schedule_hrtimeout_range() and schedule_timeout() parallel.  For
> schedule_timeout() we have the same comments but it's my understanding
> that you'd expect that wake_up_process() would wake it up.  In any
> case, if wake_up_process() doesn't wake it up then it seems like
> msleep() and schedule_timeout_uninterruptible() are the same function
> with two names, when in fact one is implemented in terms o the other.

Sounds reasonable.
It would be nice to add a note to all of those function comments
though to make them sound less absolute -
"at least @timeout time is guaranteed to pass before the routine
returns unless the current task is explicitly woken up, (e.g. by
wake_up_process())"

> NOTE that also it seems as if we need some other return values besides
> 0 and -EINTR from schedule_hrtimeout_range() (again, to match
> schedule_timeout()) since right now we'll return -EINTR if we were
> woken up with wake_up_process().  This would be unexpected in the case
> where we had TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE set.
>
> -Doug

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#1504728 — Re: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process()

FromThomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Date2016-10-20 12:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [PATCH v2] timers: Fix usleep_range() in the context of wake_up_process()
Message-ID<suiiJ-5No-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1504660
On Thu, 20 Oct 2016, Daniel Kurtz wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:29 AM, Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org> wrote:
> > ...but I'm not sure I agree with you about what to do here.
> > Specifically I think that whatever we do we need to try to keep
> > schedule_hrtimeout_range() and schedule_timeout() parallel.  For
> > schedule_timeout() we have the same comments but it's my understanding
> > that you'd expect that wake_up_process() would wake it up.  In any
> > case, if wake_up_process() doesn't wake it up then it seems like
> > msleep() and schedule_timeout_uninterruptible() are the same function
> > with two names, when in fact one is implemented in terms o the other.
> 
> Sounds reasonable.
> It would be nice to add a note to all of those function comments
> though to make them sound less absolute -
> "at least @timeout time is guaranteed to pass before the routine
> returns unless the current task is explicitly woken up, (e.g. by
> wake_up_process())"

Agreed.

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