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| Started by | Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> |
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| First post | 2016-12-10 19:10 +0100 |
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[PATCH v2] llist: Clarify comments about when locking is needed Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> - 2016-12-10 19:10 +0100
Re: [PATCH v2] llist: Clarify comments about when locking is needed Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> - 2016-12-10 19:20 +0100
Re: [PATCH v2] llist: Clarify comments about when locking is needed Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> - 2016-12-10 19:30 +0100
Re: [PATCH v2] llist: Clarify comments about when locking is needed "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> - 2016-12-12 02:20 +0100
| From | Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-10 19:10 +0100 |
| Subject | [PATCH v2] llist: Clarify comments about when locking is needed |
| Message-ID | <sMUfT-5x2-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
llist.h comments are a bit confusing about when locking is needed versus when it isn't. Clarify these comments a bit more by being a bit more descriptive about why locking is needed for llist_del_first. Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Acked-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> --- v2 changes: Minor changes to comment and commit message based on Mathieu's suggestions (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/12/10/39) include/linux/llist.h | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++---------------- 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-) diff --git a/include/linux/llist.h b/include/linux/llist.h index fd4ca0b..31822bb 100644 --- a/include/linux/llist.h +++ b/include/linux/llist.h @@ -3,28 +3,33 @@ /* * Lock-less NULL terminated single linked list * - * If there are multiple producers and multiple consumers, llist_add - * can be used in producers and llist_del_all can be used in - * consumers. They can work simultaneously without lock. But - * llist_del_first can not be used here. Because llist_del_first - * depends on list->first->next does not changed if list->first is not - * changed during its operation, but llist_del_first, llist_add, - * llist_add (or llist_del_all, llist_add, llist_add) sequence in - * another consumer may violate that. - * - * If there are multiple producers and one consumer, llist_add can be - * used in producers and llist_del_all or llist_del_first can be used - * in the consumer. - * - * This can be summarized as follow: + * Cases where locking is not needed: + * If there are multiple producers and multiple consumers, llist_add can be + * used in producers and llist_del_all can be used in consumers simultaneously + * without locking. Also a single consumer can use llist_del_first while + * multiple producers simultaneously use llist_add, without any locking. + * + * Cases where locking is needed: + * If we have multiple consumers with llist_del_first used in one consumer, and + * llist_del_first or llist_del_all used in other consumers, then a lock is + * needed. This is because llist_del_first depends on list->first->next not + * changing, but without lock protection, there's no way to be sure about that + * if a preemption happens in the middle of the delete operation and on being + * preempted back, the list->first is the same as before causing the cmpxchg in + * llist_del_first to succeed. For example, while a llist_del_first operation + * is in progress in one consumer, then a llist_del_first, llist_add, + * llist_add (or llist_del_all, llist_add, llist_add) sequence in another + * consumer may cause violations. + * + * This can be summarized as follows: * * | add | del_first | del_all * add | - | - | - * del_first | | L | L * del_all | | | - * - * Where "-" stands for no lock is needed, while "L" stands for lock - * is needed. + * Where, a particular row's operation can happen concurrently with a column's + * operation, with "-" being no lock needed, while "L" being lock is needed. * * The list entries deleted via llist_del_all can be traversed with * traversing function such as llist_for_each etc. But the list -- 2.8.0.rc3.226.g39d4020
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| From | Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-10 19:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sMUpz-5Az-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1539874 |
----- On Dec 10, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Joel Fernandes joelaf@google.com wrote: > llist.h comments are a bit confusing about when locking is needed versus when > it isn't. Clarify these comments a bit more by being a bit more descriptive > about why locking is needed for llist_del_first. As I stated in my earlier review, please remove a couple of "a bit" from the changelog. Thanks, Mathieu > > Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> > Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> > Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> > Acked-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> > Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> > --- > v2 changes: > Minor changes to comment and commit message based on Mathieu's suggestions > (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/12/10/39) > > include/linux/llist.h | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++---------------- > 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/include/linux/llist.h b/include/linux/llist.h > index fd4ca0b..31822bb 100644 > --- a/include/linux/llist.h > +++ b/include/linux/llist.h > @@ -3,28 +3,33 @@ > /* > * Lock-less NULL terminated single linked list > * > - * If there are multiple producers and multiple consumers, llist_add > - * can be used in producers and llist_del_all can be used in > - * consumers. They can work simultaneously without lock. But > - * llist_del_first can not be used here. Because llist_del_first > - * depends on list->first->next does not changed if list->first is not > - * changed during its operation, but llist_del_first, llist_add, > - * llist_add (or llist_del_all, llist_add, llist_add) sequence in > - * another consumer may violate that. > - * > - * If there are multiple producers and one consumer, llist_add can be > - * used in producers and llist_del_all or llist_del_first can be used > - * in the consumer. > - * > - * This can be summarized as follow: > + * Cases where locking is not needed: > + * If there are multiple producers and multiple consumers, llist_add can be > + * used in producers and llist_del_all can be used in consumers simultaneously > + * without locking. Also a single consumer can use llist_del_first while > + * multiple producers simultaneously use llist_add, without any locking. > + * > + * Cases where locking is needed: > + * If we have multiple consumers with llist_del_first used in one consumer, and > + * llist_del_first or llist_del_all used in other consumers, then a lock is > + * needed. This is because llist_del_first depends on list->first->next not > + * changing, but without lock protection, there's no way to be sure about that > + * if a preemption happens in the middle of the delete operation and on being > + * preempted back, the list->first is the same as before causing the cmpxchg in > + * llist_del_first to succeed. For example, while a llist_del_first operation > + * is in progress in one consumer, then a llist_del_first, llist_add, > + * llist_add (or llist_del_all, llist_add, llist_add) sequence in another > + * consumer may cause violations. > + * > + * This can be summarized as follows: > * > * | add | del_first | del_all > * add | - | - | - > * del_first | | L | L > * del_all | | | - > * > - * Where "-" stands for no lock is needed, while "L" stands for lock > - * is needed. > + * Where, a particular row's operation can happen concurrently with a column's > + * operation, with "-" being no lock needed, while "L" being lock is needed. > * > * The list entries deleted via llist_del_all can be traversed with > * traversing function such as llist_for_each etc. But the list > -- > 2.8.0.rc3.226.g39d4020 -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. http://www.efficios.com
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| From | Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-10 19:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sMUzf-5DL-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1539881 |
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote: > ----- On Dec 10, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Joel Fernandes joelaf@google.com wrote: > >> llist.h comments are a bit confusing about when locking is needed versus when >> it isn't. Clarify these comments a bit more by being a bit more descriptive >> about why locking is needed for llist_del_first. > > As I stated in my earlier review, please remove a couple of "a bit" > from the changelog. > I'm sorry I missed that. I will update it correctly in the next rev. Regards, Joel > Thanks, > > Mathieu > >> >> Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> >> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> >> Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> >> Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> >> Acked-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> >> Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> >> --- >> v2 changes: >> Minor changes to comment and commit message based on Mathieu's suggestions >> (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/12/10/39) >> >> include/linux/llist.h | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++---------------- >> 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/include/linux/llist.h b/include/linux/llist.h >> index fd4ca0b..31822bb 100644 >> --- a/include/linux/llist.h >> +++ b/include/linux/llist.h >> @@ -3,28 +3,33 @@ >> /* >> * Lock-less NULL terminated single linked list >> * >> - * If there are multiple producers and multiple consumers, llist_add >> - * can be used in producers and llist_del_all can be used in >> - * consumers. They can work simultaneously without lock. But >> - * llist_del_first can not be used here. Because llist_del_first >> - * depends on list->first->next does not changed if list->first is not >> - * changed during its operation, but llist_del_first, llist_add, >> - * llist_add (or llist_del_all, llist_add, llist_add) sequence in >> - * another consumer may violate that. >> - * >> - * If there are multiple producers and one consumer, llist_add can be >> - * used in producers and llist_del_all or llist_del_first can be used >> - * in the consumer. >> - * >> - * This can be summarized as follow: >> + * Cases where locking is not needed: >> + * If there are multiple producers and multiple consumers, llist_add can be >> + * used in producers and llist_del_all can be used in consumers simultaneously >> + * without locking. Also a single consumer can use llist_del_first while >> + * multiple producers simultaneously use llist_add, without any locking. >> + * >> + * Cases where locking is needed: >> + * If we have multiple consumers with llist_del_first used in one consumer, and >> + * llist_del_first or llist_del_all used in other consumers, then a lock is >> + * needed. This is because llist_del_first depends on list->first->next not >> + * changing, but without lock protection, there's no way to be sure about that >> + * if a preemption happens in the middle of the delete operation and on being >> + * preempted back, the list->first is the same as before causing the cmpxchg in >> + * llist_del_first to succeed. For example, while a llist_del_first operation >> + * is in progress in one consumer, then a llist_del_first, llist_add, >> + * llist_add (or llist_del_all, llist_add, llist_add) sequence in another >> + * consumer may cause violations. >> + * >> + * This can be summarized as follows: >> * >> * | add | del_first | del_all >> * add | - | - | - >> * del_first | | L | L >> * del_all | | | - >> * >> - * Where "-" stands for no lock is needed, while "L" stands for lock >> - * is needed. >> + * Where, a particular row's operation can happen concurrently with a column's >> + * operation, with "-" being no lock needed, while "L" being lock is needed. >> * >> * The list entries deleted via llist_del_all can be traversed with >> * traversing function such as llist_for_each etc. But the list >> -- >> 2.8.0.rc3.226.g39d4020 > > -- > Mathieu Desnoyers > EfficiOS Inc. > http://www.efficios.com
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| From | "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-12 02:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sNnrz-6js-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1539874 |
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> writes: > llist.h comments are a bit confusing about when locking is needed versus when > it isn't. Clarify these comments a bit more by being a bit more descriptive > about why locking is needed for llist_del_first. > > Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> > Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> > Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> > Acked-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> > Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> Acked-by: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> Best Regards, Huang, Ying > --- > v2 changes: > Minor changes to comment and commit message based on Mathieu's suggestions > (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/12/10/39) > > include/linux/llist.h | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++---------------- > 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/include/linux/llist.h b/include/linux/llist.h > index fd4ca0b..31822bb 100644 > --- a/include/linux/llist.h > +++ b/include/linux/llist.h > @@ -3,28 +3,33 @@ > /* > * Lock-less NULL terminated single linked list > * > - * If there are multiple producers and multiple consumers, llist_add > - * can be used in producers and llist_del_all can be used in > - * consumers. They can work simultaneously without lock. But > - * llist_del_first can not be used here. Because llist_del_first > - * depends on list->first->next does not changed if list->first is not > - * changed during its operation, but llist_del_first, llist_add, > - * llist_add (or llist_del_all, llist_add, llist_add) sequence in > - * another consumer may violate that. > - * > - * If there are multiple producers and one consumer, llist_add can be > - * used in producers and llist_del_all or llist_del_first can be used > - * in the consumer. > - * > - * This can be summarized as follow: > + * Cases where locking is not needed: > + * If there are multiple producers and multiple consumers, llist_add can be > + * used in producers and llist_del_all can be used in consumers simultaneously > + * without locking. Also a single consumer can use llist_del_first while > + * multiple producers simultaneously use llist_add, without any locking. > + * > + * Cases where locking is needed: > + * If we have multiple consumers with llist_del_first used in one consumer, and > + * llist_del_first or llist_del_all used in other consumers, then a lock is > + * needed. This is because llist_del_first depends on list->first->next not > + * changing, but without lock protection, there's no way to be sure about that > + * if a preemption happens in the middle of the delete operation and on being > + * preempted back, the list->first is the same as before causing the cmpxchg in > + * llist_del_first to succeed. For example, while a llist_del_first operation > + * is in progress in one consumer, then a llist_del_first, llist_add, > + * llist_add (or llist_del_all, llist_add, llist_add) sequence in another > + * consumer may cause violations. > + * > + * This can be summarized as follows: > * > * | add | del_first | del_all > * add | - | - | - > * del_first | | L | L > * del_all | | | - > * > - * Where "-" stands for no lock is needed, while "L" stands for lock > - * is needed. > + * Where, a particular row's operation can happen concurrently with a column's > + * operation, with "-" being no lock needed, while "L" being lock is needed. > * > * The list entries deleted via llist_del_all can be traversed with > * traversing function such as llist_for_each etc. But the list
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