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[PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page

Started byMasahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
First post2016-11-26 19:10 +0100
Last post2016-11-30 09:10 +0100
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  [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> - 2016-11-26 19:10 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against  raw transferred page Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com> - 2016-11-27 17:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw  transferred page Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> - 2016-11-30 06:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against  raw transferred page Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com> - 2016-11-30 09:10 +0100

#1530716 — [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page

FromMasahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
Date2016-11-26 19:10 +0100
Subject[PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page
Message-ID<sHPAe-1yq-45@gated-at.bofh.it>
The erased page check must be done against the raw transferred data.
The current first call of is_erase() is against the data after ECC
correction.  I saw cases where not all of the data in the page are
0xFF after they are manipulated by the ECC correction engine.

Signed-off-by: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
---

 drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c | 5 ++++-
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c b/drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c
index f035dac..ae44c01 100644
--- a/drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c
+++ b/drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c
@@ -1168,6 +1168,7 @@ static int denali_read_page(struct mtd_info *mtd, struct nand_chip *chip,
 		INTR_STATUS__DMA_CMD_COMP | INTR_STATUS__ECC_UNCOR_ERR :
 		INTR_STATUS__ECC_TRANSACTION_DONE | INTR_STATUS__ECC_ERR;
 	bool check_erased_page = false;
+	int ret;
 
 	if (page != denali->page) {
 		dev_err(denali->dev,
@@ -1206,7 +1207,9 @@ static int denali_read_page(struct mtd_info *mtd, struct nand_chip *chip,
 		 * error.
 		 */
 
-		read_oob_data(mtd, chip->oob_poi, denali->page);
+		ret = denali_read_page_raw(mtd, chip, buf, 1, denali->page);
+		if (ret < 0)
+			return ret;
 
 		/* check ECC failures that may have occurred on erased pages */
 		if (!is_erased(buf, mtd->writesize) ||
-- 
2.7.4

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#1530896 — Re: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page

FromBoris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Date2016-11-27 17:20 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page
Message-ID<sIalk-6B5-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1530716
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:06:05 +0900
Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> wrote:

> The erased page check must be done against the raw transferred data.
> The current first call of is_erase() is against the data after ECC
> correction.  I saw cases where not all of the data in the page are
> 0xFF after they are manipulated by the ECC correction engine.

Hm, that's surprising. Usually ECC engines leaves data unchanged when
uncorrectable errors are detected. Do you have examples where this
happens? How did you trigger this case?

> 
> Signed-off-by: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
> ---
> 
>  drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c | 5 ++++-
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c b/drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c
> index f035dac..ae44c01 100644
> --- a/drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c
> +++ b/drivers/mtd/nand/denali.c
> @@ -1168,6 +1168,7 @@ static int denali_read_page(struct mtd_info *mtd, struct nand_chip *chip,
>  		INTR_STATUS__DMA_CMD_COMP | INTR_STATUS__ECC_UNCOR_ERR :
>  		INTR_STATUS__ECC_TRANSACTION_DONE | INTR_STATUS__ECC_ERR;
>  	bool check_erased_page = false;
> +	int ret;
>  
>  	if (page != denali->page) {
>  		dev_err(denali->dev,
> @@ -1206,7 +1207,9 @@ static int denali_read_page(struct mtd_info *mtd, struct nand_chip *chip,
>  		 * error.
>  		 */
>  
> -		read_oob_data(mtd, chip->oob_poi, denali->page);
> +		ret = denali_read_page_raw(mtd, chip, buf, 1, denali->page);
> +		if (ret < 0)
> +			return ret;
>  
>  		/* check ECC failures that may have occurred on erased pages */
>  		if (!is_erased(buf, mtd->writesize) ||

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#1532963 — Re: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page

FromMasahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
Date2016-11-30 06:40 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page
Message-ID<sJ5MB-1Us-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1530896
Hi Boris


2016-11-28 1:12 GMT+09:00 Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:06:05 +0900
> Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> wrote:
>
>> The erased page check must be done against the raw transferred data.
>> The current first call of is_erase() is against the data after ECC
>> correction.  I saw cases where not all of the data in the page are
>> 0xFF after they are manipulated by the ECC correction engine.
>
> Hm, that's surprising. Usually ECC engines leaves data unchanged when
> uncorrectable errors are detected. Do you have examples where this
> happens? How did you trigger this case?


It always happens on some of my boards.
At the bottom of this mail, I attached a dump of an erased page
after it was manipulated by the ECC engine.

See offset 0x2c1, 0x6c1
The data is 0xfd, not 0xff.


I think basically two ways for erased page checking.

[1] Read the whole of page + oob in raw mode transfer,
    then check if all the data are 0xFF.

[2] Read the ECC-corrected page + oob,
    then check if *most* of the data are 0xFF.
    bit-flips less than ecc.strength are allowed.


I think [2] is equivalent to calling nand_check_erased_ecc_chunk()
with ecc.strength for threshold,
as you suggested in 09/39


But, the current Denali driver does:

[3] Read the ECC-corrected page + oob,
    then check if all the data are 0xFF.
    (no bit-flips are allowed)

I think this is wrong
because this erased page checking is false negative.



This patches adopts [1] to solve my problem, but [2] will work as well.

In my case, only one bit-flip (0xff -> 0xfd) in each ECC section.



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-- 
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada

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#1533052 — Re: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page

FromBoris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Date2016-11-30 09:10 +0100
SubjectRe: [PATCH 19/39] mtd: nand: denali: perform erased check against raw transferred page
Message-ID<sJ87M-3xH-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1532963
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:36:13 +0900
Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> wrote:

> Hi Boris
> 
> 
> 2016-11-28 1:12 GMT+09:00 Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>:
> > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:06:05 +0900
> > Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> The erased page check must be done against the raw transferred data.
> >> The current first call of is_erase() is against the data after ECC
> >> correction.  I saw cases where not all of the data in the page are
> >> 0xFF after they are manipulated by the ECC correction engine.  
> >
> > Hm, that's surprising. Usually ECC engines leaves data unchanged when
> > uncorrectable errors are detected. Do you have examples where this
> > happens? How did you trigger this case?  
> 
> 
> It always happens on some of my boards.
> At the bottom of this mail, I attached a dump of an erased page
> after it was manipulated by the ECC engine.
> 
> See offset 0x2c1, 0x6c1
> The data is 0xfd, not 0xff.

So you confirm that is dump is done with ECC engine enabled, right?
All I see is 2 bitflips in an erased page, and AFAICT, the engine did
not try to fix other things (with the risk of making it worst).

My point was that, if you already have the in-band data, and can easily
retrieve the ECC and OOB sections, then it's more efficient than
transferring the whole page again.

> 
> 
> I think basically two ways for erased page checking.
> 
> [1] Read the whole of page + oob in raw mode transfer,
>     then check if all the data are 0xFF.

I'm pretty sure you have bitflips even when reading in raw mode in your
specific case.

> 
> [2] Read the ECC-corrected page + oob,
>     then check if *most* of the data are 0xFF.
>     bit-flips less than ecc.strength are allowed.

That's how other drivers are doing it.

> 
> 
> I think [2] is equivalent to calling nand_check_erased_ecc_chunk()
> with ecc.strength for threshold,
> as you suggested in 09/39

Yep, you can use this helper and pass the data and ECC sections (you'll
have to loop over the different ECC chunks and call this function for
each iteration)

> 
> 
> But, the current Denali driver does:
> 
> [3] Read the ECC-corrected page + oob,
>     then check if all the data are 0xFF.
>     (no bit-flips are allowed)
> 
> I think this is wrong
> because this erased page checking is false negative.

Yep, that does not work as soon as you have at least one bitflip in the
page, which can be a problem on MLCs or modern SLCs.

> 
> 
> 
> This patches adopts [1] to solve my problem, but [2] will work as well.

Yes, but as I said, I'm don't understand how #1 can work here. I'd
expect to see the same bitflips when reading in raw mode.

> 
> In my case, only one bit-flip (0xff -> 0xfd) in each ECC section.
> 
> 
> 
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