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Re: userns, netns, and quick physical memory consumption by unprivileged user

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  Re: userns, netns, and quick physical memory consumption by  unprivileged user Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de> - 2016-03-11 16:40 +0100
    Re: userns, netns, and quick physical memory consumption by  unprivileged user Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> - 2016-03-12 12:50 +0100

#1355986 — Re: userns, netns, and quick physical memory consumption by unprivileged user

Yuriy M. Kaminskiy <yumkam@gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, all those hash/conntrack/etc default sizes was calculated from
> physical memory size in assumption there will be only *one* instance of
> those tables. Obviously, introduction of network namespaces (and
> especially unprivileged user-ns) thrown this assumption in the window
> (and here comes that "falling back to vmalloc" message again; in pre-netns
> world, those tables were allocated *once* on early system startup, with
> typically plenty of free and unfragmented memory).

No idea how to fix this expect by removing conntrack support in net
namespaces completely.

I'd disallow all write accesses to skb->nfct (NAT, CONNMARK,
CONNSECMARK, ...) and then no longer clear skb->nfct when forwarding
packet from init_ns to container.

Containers could then still test conntrack as seen from init namespace pov
in PREROUTING/FORWARD/INPUT (but not OUTPUT, obviously).

[ OUTPUT *might* be doable as well by allowing NEW creation in output
  but skipping nat and deferring the confirmation/commit of the new
  entry to the table until skb leaves initns ]

We could key conntrack entries to initns conntrack table
instead of adding one new table per netns, but seems like this only
replaces one problem with a new one (filling/blocking initns table from
another netns).

Maybe we could go with a compromise and skip/disallow conntrack in
unpriv userns only?

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 04:34:06PM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Yuriy M. Kaminskiy <yumkam@gmail.com> wrote:
> > BTW, all those hash/conntrack/etc default sizes was calculated from
> > physical memory size in assumption there will be only *one* instance of
> > those tables. Obviously, introduction of network namespaces (and
> > especially unprivileged user-ns) thrown this assumption in the window
> > (and here comes that "falling back to vmalloc" message again; in pre-netns
> > world, those tables were allocated *once* on early system startup, with
> > typically plenty of free and unfragmented memory).
> 
> No idea how to fix this expect by removing conntrack support in net
> namespaces completely.
> 
> I'd disallow all write accesses to skb->nfct (NAT, CONNMARK,
> CONNSECMARK, ...) and then no longer clear skb->nfct when forwarding
> packet from init_ns to container.
> 
> Containers could then still test conntrack as seen from init namespace pov
> in PREROUTING/FORWARD/INPUT (but not OUTPUT, obviously).
> 
> [ OUTPUT *might* be doable as well by allowing NEW creation in output
>   but skipping nat and deferring the confirmation/commit of the new
>   entry to the table until skb leaves initns ]
> 
> We could key conntrack entries to initns conntrack table
> instead of adding one new table per netns, but seems like this only
> replaces one problem with a new one (filling/blocking initns table from
> another netns).

We can add a global perns limit in terms of conntrack entries that can
only be set via CAP_NET_ADMIN from the initns. Thus, we avoid the
filling/blocking from another netns, or hide this knob to
unpriviledged userns somehow.

In the previous netfilter workshop I remember we agreed on going
towards having a single conntrack table for netns, so I suggest we
follow that direction.

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