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Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> - 2016-07-08 15:50 +0200
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-07-08 18:10 +0200
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> - 2016-07-08 18:30 +0200
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-07-08 19:50 +0200
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-07-08 22:50 +0200
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu - 2016-07-09 08:20 +0200
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-07-09 19:10 +0200
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com> - 2016-07-11 08:10 +0200
| From | Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-07-08 15:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support |
| Message-ID | <rSEki-5sf-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Michael Ellerman wrote: > > I wonder if this code should be using size_from_object() instead of s->size? > > Hmm, not sure. Who's SLUB maintainer? :) Me. s->size is the size of the whole object including debugging info etc. ksize() gives you the actual usable size of an object.
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| From | Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> |
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| Date | 2016-07-08 18:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support |
| Message-ID | <rSGvM-71i-29@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1439462 |
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Michael Ellerman wrote:
>
>> > I wonder if this code should be using size_from_object() instead of s->size?
BTW, I can't reproduce this on x86 yet...
>>
>> Hmm, not sure. Who's SLUB maintainer? :)
>
> Me.
>
> s->size is the size of the whole object including debugging info etc.
> ksize() gives you the actual usable size of an object.
Is check_valid_pointer() making sure the pointer is within the usable
size? It seemed like it was checking that it was within the slub
object (checks against s->size, wants it above base after moving
pointer to include redzone, etc).
I think a potential problem with Michael's fix is that the ptr in
__check_heap_object() may not point at the _start_ of the usable
object, so doing the red zone shift isn't quite right.
This finds the ptr's offset within the slub object (since s->size is
the slub object size):
offset = (ptr - page_address(page)) % s->size;
But this looks at object_size and doesn't take into account actual size:
if (offset <= s->object_size && n <= s->object_size - offset)
return NULL;
I think offset needs to be adjusted by the size of padding, which the
restore_red_left() call had the same effect, but may not cover all
padding conditions? I'm not sure.
Should it be:
/* Find offset within slab object. */
offset = (ptr - page_address(page)) % s->size;
/* Adjust offset for meta data and padding. */
offset -= s->size - s->object_size;
/* Make sure offset and size are within bounds of the
allocation size. */
if (offset <= s->object_size && n <= s->object_size - offset)
return NULL;
?
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
Chrome OS & Brillo Security
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| From | Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-08 18:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rSGP9-79Y-61@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1439614 |
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Kees Cook wrote: > Is check_valid_pointer() making sure the pointer is within the usable > size? It seemed like it was checking that it was within the slub > object (checks against s->size, wants it above base after moving > pointer to include redzone, etc). check_valid_pointer verifies that a pointer is pointing to the start of an object. It is used to verify the internal points that SLUB used and should not be modified to do anything different.
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| From | Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> |
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| Date | 2016-07-08 19:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support |
| Message-ID | <rSI4x-7VV-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1439637 |
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Kees Cook wrote: > >> Is check_valid_pointer() making sure the pointer is within the usable >> size? It seemed like it was checking that it was within the slub >> object (checks against s->size, wants it above base after moving >> pointer to include redzone, etc). > > check_valid_pointer verifies that a pointer is pointing to the start of an > object. It is used to verify the internal points that SLUB used and > should not be modified to do anything different. Yup, no worries -- I won't touch it. :) I just wanted to verify my understanding. And after playing a bit more, I see that the only thing to the left is padding and redzone. SLUB layout, from what I saw: offset: what's there ------- start: padding, redzone red_left_pad: object itself inuse: rest of metadata size: start of next slub object (and object_size == inuse - red_left_pad) i.e. a pointer must be between red_left_pad and inuse, which is the same as pointer - ref_left_pad being less than object_size. So, as found already, the position in the usercopy check needs to be bumped down by red_left_pad, which is what Michael's fix does, so I'll include it in the next version. Thanks! -Kees -- Kees Cook Chrome OS & Brillo Security
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| From | Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> |
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| Date | 2016-07-08 22:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support |
| Message-ID | <rSKSJ-1jd-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1439722 |
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Kees Cook wrote:
>>
>>> Is check_valid_pointer() making sure the pointer is within the usable
>>> size? It seemed like it was checking that it was within the slub
>>> object (checks against s->size, wants it above base after moving
>>> pointer to include redzone, etc).
>>
>> check_valid_pointer verifies that a pointer is pointing to the start of an
>> object. It is used to verify the internal points that SLUB used and
>> should not be modified to do anything different.
>
> Yup, no worries -- I won't touch it. :) I just wanted to verify my
> understanding.
>
> And after playing a bit more, I see that the only thing to the left is
> padding and redzone. SLUB layout, from what I saw:
>
> offset: what's there
> -------
> start: padding, redzone
> red_left_pad: object itself
> inuse: rest of metadata
> size: start of next slub object
>
> (and object_size == inuse - red_left_pad)
>
> i.e. a pointer must be between red_left_pad and inuse, which is the
> same as pointer - ref_left_pad being less than object_size.
>
> So, as found already, the position in the usercopy check needs to be
> bumped down by red_left_pad, which is what Michael's fix does, so I'll
> include it in the next version.
Actually, after some offline chats, I think this is better, since it
makes sure the ptr doesn't end up somewhere weird before we start the
calculations. This leaves the pointer as-is, but explicitly handles
the redzone on the offset instead, with no wrapping, etc:
/* Find offset within object. */
offset = (ptr - page_address(page)) % s->size;
+ /* Adjust for redzone and reject if within the redzone. */
+ if (s->flags & SLAB_RED_ZONE) {
+ if (offset < s->red_left_pad)
+ return s->name;
+ offset -= s->red_left_pad;
+ }
+
/* Allow address range falling entirely within object size. */
if (offset <= s->object_size && n <= s->object_size - offset)
return NULL;
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
Chrome OS & Brillo Security
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| From | Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu |
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| Date | 2016-07-09 08:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support |
| Message-ID | <rSTMl-7yt-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1439790 |
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On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 15:58:20 +1000, Michael Ellerman said: > I then get two hits, which may or may not be valid: > > [ 2.309556] usercopy: kernel memory overwrite attempt detected to d000000003510028 (kernfs_node_cache) (64 bytes) > [ 2.309995] CPU: 7 PID: 2241 Comm: wait-for-root Not tainted 4.7.0-rc3-00099-g97872fc89d41 #64 > [ 2.310480] Call Trace: > [ 2.310556] [c0000001f4773bf0] [c0000000009bdbe8] dump_stack+0xb0/0xf0 (unreliable) > [ 2.311016] [c0000001f4773c30] [c00000000029cf44] __check_object_size+0x74/0x320 > [ 2.311472] [c0000001f4773cb0] [c00000000005d4d0] copy_from_user+0x60/0xd4 > [ 2.311873] [c0000001f4773cf0] [c0000000008b38f4] __get_filter+0x74/0x160 > [ 2.312230] [c0000001f4773d30] [c0000000008b408c] sk_attach_filter+0x2c/0xc0 > [ 2.312596] [c0000001f4773d60] [c000000000871c34] sock_setsockopt+0x954/0xc00 > [ 2.313021] [c0000001f4773dd0] [c00000000086ac44] SyS_setsockopt+0x134/0x150 > [ 2.313380] [c0000001f4773e30] [c000000000009260] system_call+0x38/0x108 Yeah, 'ping' dies with a similar traceback going to rawv6_setsockopt(), and 'trinity' dies a horrid death during initialization because it creates some sctp sockets to fool around with. The problem in all these cases is that setsockopt uses copy_from_user() to pull in the option value, and the allocation isn't tagged with USERCOPY to whitelist it. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to track down where in net/ the memory is allocated, nor is there any good hint in the grsecurity patch that I can find where they do the tagging. And the fact that so far, I'm only had ping and trinity killed in setsockopt() hints that *most* setsockopt() calls must be going through a code path that does allocate suitable memory, and these two have different paths. I can't believe they're the only two binaries that call setsockopt()..... Just saw your second mail, now I'm wondering why *my* laptop doesn't die a horrid death when systemd starts up. Mine is systemd-230-3.gitea68351.fc25.x86_64 - maybe there's something release-dependent going on?
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| From | Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> |
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| Date | 2016-07-09 19:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 9/9] mm: SLUB hardened usercopy support |
| Message-ID | <rT3Vo-5Pr-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1439899 |
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:17 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote: > Yeah, 'ping' dies with a similar traceback going to rawv6_setsockopt(), > and 'trinity' dies a horrid death during initialization because it creates > some sctp sockets to fool around with. The problem in all these cases is that > setsockopt uses copy_from_user() to pull in the option value, and the allocation > isn't tagged with USERCOPY to whitelist it. Just a note to clear up confusion: this series doesn't include the whitelist protection, so this appears to be either bugs in the slub checker or bugs in the code using the cfq_io_cq cache. I suspect the former. :) -Kees -- Kees Cook Chrome OS & Brillo Security
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| From | Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-11 08:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rTCzL-3d1-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1439790 |
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 04:48:38PM -0400, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016, Kees Cook wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is check_valid_pointer() making sure the pointer is within the usable
> >>> size? It seemed like it was checking that it was within the slub
> >>> object (checks against s->size, wants it above base after moving
> >>> pointer to include redzone, etc).
> >>
> >> check_valid_pointer verifies that a pointer is pointing to the start of an
> >> object. It is used to verify the internal points that SLUB used and
> >> should not be modified to do anything different.
> >
> > Yup, no worries -- I won't touch it. :) I just wanted to verify my
> > understanding.
> >
> > And after playing a bit more, I see that the only thing to the left is
> > padding and redzone. SLUB layout, from what I saw:
> >
> > offset: what's there
> > -------
> > start: padding, redzone
> > red_left_pad: object itself
> > inuse: rest of metadata
> > size: start of next slub object
> >
> > (and object_size == inuse - red_left_pad)
> >
> > i.e. a pointer must be between red_left_pad and inuse, which is the
> > same as pointer - ref_left_pad being less than object_size.
> >
> > So, as found already, the position in the usercopy check needs to be
> > bumped down by red_left_pad, which is what Michael's fix does, so I'll
> > include it in the next version.
>
> Actually, after some offline chats, I think this is better, since it
> makes sure the ptr doesn't end up somewhere weird before we start the
> calculations. This leaves the pointer as-is, but explicitly handles
> the redzone on the offset instead, with no wrapping, etc:
>
> /* Find offset within object. */
> offset = (ptr - page_address(page)) % s->size;
>
> + /* Adjust for redzone and reject if within the redzone. */
> + if (s->flags & SLAB_RED_ZONE) {
> + if (offset < s->red_left_pad)
> + return s->name;
> + offset -= s->red_left_pad;
> + }
> +
> /* Allow address range falling entirely within object size. */
> if (offset <= s->object_size && n <= s->object_size - offset)
> return NULL;
>
As Christoph saids, please use slab_ksize() rather than
s->object_size.
Otherwise, looks good to me.
Thanks.
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