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Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2]

Started byHerbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
First post2016-06-24 12:10 +0200
Last post2016-06-28 07:40 +0200
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  Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function  [ver #2] Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> - 2016-06-24 12:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2] David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-06-24 14:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function  [ver #2] Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> - 2016-06-25 03:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2] David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-06-27 16:30 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function  [ver #2] Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> - 2016-06-28 07:40 +0200

#1430556 — Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2]

FromHerbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Date2016-06-24 12:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2]
Message-ID<rNwdH-6IP-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
Mat Martineau <mathew.j.martineau@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
>> +     if (strcmp(encoding, "pkcs1") == 0) {
>> +             /* The data wangled by the RSA algorithm is typically padded
>> +              * and encoded in some manner, such as EMSA-PKCS1-1_5 [RFC3447
>> +              * sec 8.2].
>> +              */
>> +             if (!hash_algo)
>> +                     n = snprintf(alg_name, CRYPTO_MAX_ALG_NAME,
>> +                                  "pkcs1pad(%s)",
>> +                                  pkey->pkey_algo);
> 
> Did you see Herbert's patch that strips out non-hash pkcs1pad capabilities 
> (and the ensuing discussion)?
> 
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-crypto/index.html#20432
> 
> I'm making use of pkcs1pad(rsa) with a TLS implementation, so it's good to 
> see it supported here.

Indeed I'm nacking this patch because it's exporting a purely
software algorithm to user-space for no good reason.  AFAICS
there is nothing in the pkcs1pad code that cannot be done in
user-space, even assuming that your private key is secret and
only accessible from the kernel.

IOW exporting the raw RSA might make sense because the key may
not be visible to user-space, or that the RSA might be implemented
in hardware offload, but there is no sane reason to export pkcs1pad.

Cheers,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

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#1430621 — Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2]

FromDavid Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Date2016-06-24 14:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2]
Message-ID<rNy5P-7Tc-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1430556
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:

> IOW exporting the raw RSA might make sense because the key may
> not be visible to user-space, or that the RSA might be implemented
> in hardware offload, but there is no sane reason to export pkcs1pad.

The problem is that if I'm to produce consistency with, say, the TPM
interface, then I have to deal in wrapped/padded data - leastways as far as I
can tell from reading the docs.

David

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#1431044

FromHerbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Date2016-06-25 03:40 +0200
Message-ID<rNKJH-7uK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1430621
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:06:02PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> 
> The problem is that if I'm to produce consistency with, say, the TPM
> interface, then I have to deal in wrapped/padded data - leastways as far as I
> can tell from reading the docs.

So the TPM device is accessed through the same interface? Where is
the code for it?

Thanks,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

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#1432077 — Re: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2]

FromDavid Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Date2016-06-27 16:30 +0200
SubjectRe: [PATCH 5/8] KEYS: Provide software public key query function [ver #2]
Message-ID<rOFHY-1ok-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1431044
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:

> > The problem is that if I'm to produce consistency with, say, the TPM
> > interface, then I have to deal in wrapped/padded data - leastways as far
> > as I can tell from reading the docs.
> 
> So the TPM device is accessed through the same interface? Where is
> the code for it?

I have some patches I need to finish revamping.  I had it kind of working
(though with a slightly different user interface) - then TPMv2 support was
added to the TPM driver before I finished and I need to redo the patches.

David

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#1432488

FromHerbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Date2016-06-28 07:40 +0200
Message-ID<rOTUB-2AT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1432077
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 03:27:13PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> 
> I have some patches I need to finish revamping.  I had it kind of working
> (though with a slightly different user interface) - then TPMv2 support was
> added to the TPM driver before I finished and I need to redo the patches.

In that case can we wait until this is ready before pushing the
user-space interface? Once you add a user-space interface it's
very difficult to change it again so we should be absolutely sure
what it's supposed to  look like before we add a new interace.

Thanks,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

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