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  kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:10 +0100
    Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:40 +0100
      Re: kdbus refactoring? Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-11-09 00:40 +0100
        Re: kdbus refactoring? Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2015-11-09 02:00 +0100
          Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-09 09:40 +0100
          Re: kdbus refactoring? David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 09:40 +0100
            Re: kdbus refactoring? Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2015-11-09 09:50 +0100
              Re: kdbus refactoring? David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 10:00 +0100
                Re: kdbus refactoring? Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2015-11-09 10:10 +0100
                Re: kdbus refactoring? David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 10:20 +0100
                  Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-09 10:30 +0100
                    Re: kdbus refactoring? Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-11-09 16:10 +0100
                      Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2015-11-09 17:00 +0100
                Re: kdbus refactoring? Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2015-11-09 10:20 +0100
        Re: kdbus refactoring? Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 09:20 +0100
        Re: kdbus refactoring? Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-11-09 18:00 +0100
          Re: kdbus refactoring? Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-11-09 18:10 +0100
            Re: kdbus refactoring? Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> - 2015-11-09 18:20 +0100
            Re: kdbus refactoring? Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-11-09 18:30 +0100
              Re: kdbus refactoring? "Kalle A. Sandstrom" <ksandstr@iki.fi> - 2015-11-12 06:50 +0100
          Re: kdbus refactoring? Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> - 2015-11-09 18:10 +0100
    Re: kdbus refactoring? Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-11-08 22:40 +0100

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#1265863

Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> writes:

> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:39:43PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>> > On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:06:31PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> after reading on the removal of kdbus from Rawhide[1] I've searched
>>> >> the mailinglist archives for more details but didn't find anything.
>>> >> So, what are your plans?
>>> >>
>>> >> [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2015-October/006011.html
>>> >
>>> > As that link said, based on the result of the code being in Rawhide, it
>>> > is now being reworked / redesigned.  The result will be posted for
>>> > review "when it's ready".
>>>
>>> If you rework/redesign something you have to know what you want to change.
>>> That's why I was asking for the plan...
>>
>> Since when do people post "plans" or "design documents" on lkml without
>> real code?  Again, code will be posted when it's ready, like any other
>> kernel submission.
>
> I ask for feedback on ideas and designs on a fairly regular basis.  I
> even frequently get valuable feedback :)
>
> I would like to think that the kernel community would have something
> of value to add to the process of designing and implementing a major
> new IPC mechanism.

The "trust us, we'll show it when it's ready" attitude reminds me of the
controversial TPP and TTIP negotiations.

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#1265204

On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 10:06:31PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> after reading on the removal of kdbus from Rawhide[1] I've searched
> the mailinglist archives for more details but didn't find anything.
> So, what are your plans?
> 
> [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2015-October/006011.html

As that link said, based on the result of the code being in Rawhide, it
is now being reworked / redesigned.  The result will be posted for
review "when it's ready".

thanks,

greg k-h
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