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| Started by | David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> |
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| First post | 2015-11-04 21:40 +0100 |
| Last post | 2015-11-05 22:30 +0100 |
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[patch] mm, oom: add comment for why oom_adj exists David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> - 2015-11-04 21:40 +0100
Re: [patch] mm, oom: add comment for why oom_adj exists Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2015-11-05 11:30 +0100
Re: [patch] mm, oom: add comment for why oom_adj exists David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> - 2015-11-05 22:30 +0100
| From | David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 21:40 +0100 |
| Subject | [patch] mm, oom: add comment for why oom_adj exists |
| Message-ID | <qrd0B-5kK-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
/proc/pid/oom_adj exists solely to avoid breaking existing userspace
binaries that write to the tunable.
Add a comment in the only possible location within the kernel tree to
describe the situation and motivation for keeping it around.
Signed-off-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
---
fs/proc/base.c | 10 ++++++++++
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
diff --git a/fs/proc/base.c b/fs/proc/base.c
--- a/fs/proc/base.c
+++ b/fs/proc/base.c
@@ -1032,6 +1032,16 @@ static ssize_t oom_adj_read(struct file *file, char __user *buf, size_t count,
return simple_read_from_buffer(buf, count, ppos, buffer, len);
}
+/*
+ * /proc/pid/oom_adj exists solely for backwards compatibility with previous
+ * kernels. The effective policy is defined by oom_score_adj, which has a
+ * different scale: oom_adj grew exponentially and oom_score_adj grows linearly.
+ * Values written to oom_adj are simply mapped linearly to oom_score_adj.
+ * Processes that become oom disabled via oom_adj will still be oom disabled
+ * with this implementation.
+ *
+ * oom_adj cannot be removed since existing userspace binaries use it.
+ */
static ssize_t oom_adj_write(struct file *file, const char __user *buf,
size_t count, loff_t *ppos)
{
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| From | Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> |
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| Date | 2015-11-05 11:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qrpXQ-5kx-27@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1262576 |
On Wed 04-11-15 12:32:14, David Rientjes wrote:
> /proc/pid/oom_adj exists solely to avoid breaking existing userspace
> binaries that write to the tunable.
>
> Add a comment in the only possible location within the kernel tree to
> describe the situation and motivation for keeping it around.
I am not sure this is really needed but it certainly is not harmful.
If this is a way to suppress any attempts for changes like
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1f80189385e540c2a5b2747a7a265d8c%40SHMBX01.spreadtrum.com
then it does not explain why those are not desirable.
> Signed-off-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> ---
> fs/proc/base.c | 10 ++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/fs/proc/base.c b/fs/proc/base.c
> --- a/fs/proc/base.c
> +++ b/fs/proc/base.c
> @@ -1032,6 +1032,16 @@ static ssize_t oom_adj_read(struct file *file, char __user *buf, size_t count,
> return simple_read_from_buffer(buf, count, ppos, buffer, len);
> }
>
> +/*
> + * /proc/pid/oom_adj exists solely for backwards compatibility with previous
> + * kernels. The effective policy is defined by oom_score_adj, which has a
> + * different scale: oom_adj grew exponentially and oom_score_adj grows linearly.
> + * Values written to oom_adj are simply mapped linearly to oom_score_adj.
> + * Processes that become oom disabled via oom_adj will still be oom disabled
> + * with this implementation.
> + *
> + * oom_adj cannot be removed since existing userspace binaries use it.
This is a bit strong wording. I think the knob can be removed in the future.
* oom_adj is kept for compatibility reasons. There are still few
* projects which use oom_adj only. We have tried to convert all of them
* which could be found but it will take some time until all those changes
* bubble up to all users. We might try to remove the knob in few years
* if the situtation changes.
> + */
> static ssize_t oom_adj_write(struct file *file, const char __user *buf,
> size_t count, loff_t *ppos)
> {
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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| From | David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-05 22:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qrAgz-3yX-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1263073 |
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Michal Hocko wrote: > > diff --git a/fs/proc/base.c b/fs/proc/base.c > > --- a/fs/proc/base.c > > +++ b/fs/proc/base.c > > @@ -1032,6 +1032,16 @@ static ssize_t oom_adj_read(struct file *file, char __user *buf, size_t count, > > return simple_read_from_buffer(buf, count, ppos, buffer, len); > > } > > > > +/* > > + * /proc/pid/oom_adj exists solely for backwards compatibility with previous > > + * kernels. The effective policy is defined by oom_score_adj, which has a > > + * different scale: oom_adj grew exponentially and oom_score_adj grows linearly. > > + * Values written to oom_adj are simply mapped linearly to oom_score_adj. > > + * Processes that become oom disabled via oom_adj will still be oom disabled > > + * with this implementation. > > + * > > + * oom_adj cannot be removed since existing userspace binaries use it. > > This is a bit strong wording. I think the knob can be removed in the future. > Perhaps you are my optimistic than I am, but I would think it would be difficult to remove a tunable that requires binaries to be re-built to avoid. That was Linus's primary objection, IIRC. If an application fails to oom disable itself because it still writes to oom_adj, the results could be a system wide failure. There are workarounds to that if you have root, but I don't think we're in a position to remove it in the near future. I think the comment is clear why it cannot be removed right now and its current implementation. Converting software that writes to oom_adj to use oom_score_adj instead is still a worthwhile goal, though, since they'd be using the semantics of the effective policy. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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