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How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or SMP environment?

Started byraghu MG <raghumag@gmail.com>
First post2015-10-26 07:50 +0100
Last post2015-10-30 12:00 +0100
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  How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or SMP environment? raghu MG <raghumag@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 07:50 +0100
    Re: How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or  SMP environment? Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-26 11:50 +0100
      Re: How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or  SMP environment? raghu MG <raghumag@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 12:00 +0100

#1255699 — How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or SMP environment?

Fromraghu MG <raghumag@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-26 07:50 +0100
SubjectHow is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or SMP environment?
Message-ID<qnJLs-4TL-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hello,
I have couple of questions.
1) In case of UP how is jiffies(timer) get updated while holding spin
lock using spinlock_irq_save?

2)My understanding is in smp environment jiffies updation cannot be
done on processor holding spinlock irrespective of spinlock API.So
timer interrupt should be enabled across all cores in SoC. Imagine a
scenario in quad core processor where 4 cores are holding 4 different
spinlocks & how is the timer interrupt for jiffies handled?
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#1255814 — Re: How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or SMP environment?

FromRussell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Date2015-10-26 11:50 +0100
SubjectRe: How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or SMP environment?
Message-ID<qnNvI-78a-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1255699
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:19:31PM +0530, raghu MG wrote:
> Hello,
> I have couple of questions.
> 1) In case of UP how is jiffies(timer) get updated while holding spin
> lock using spinlock_irq_save?

It isn't, and...
> 
> 2)My understanding is in smp environment jiffies updation cannot be
> done on processor holding spinlock irrespective of spinlock API.So
> timer interrupt should be enabled across all cores in SoC. Imagine a
> scenario in quad core processor where 4 cores are holding 4 different
> spinlocks & how is the timer interrupt for jiffies handled?

You can't rely on jiffies being updated while holding a spinlock.
Expecting jiffies to update while holding a spinlock is a bug.

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#1259394 — Re: How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or SMP environment?

Fromraghu MG <raghumag@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-30 12:00 +0100
SubjectRe: How is jiffies upation while holding spinlock in Uniprocessor or SMP environment?
Message-ID<qpfzA-4Mx-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1255814
Thank you for clarifying.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:19:31PM +0530, raghu MG wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I have couple of questions.
>> 1) In case of UP how is jiffies(timer) get updated while holding spin
>> lock using spinlock_irq_save?
>
> It isn't, and...
>>
>> 2)My understanding is in smp environment jiffies updation cannot be
>> done on processor holding spinlock irrespective of spinlock API.So
>> timer interrupt should be enabled across all cores in SoC. Imagine a
>> scenario in quad core processor where 4 cores are holding 4 different
>> spinlocks & how is the timer interrupt for jiffies handled?
>
> You can't rely on jiffies being updated while holding a spinlock.
> Expecting jiffies to update while holding a spinlock is a bug.
>
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> according to speedtest.net.
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