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  [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format binding Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 06:20 +0100
    Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format binding Jonas Gorski <jogo@openwrt.org> - 2015-12-05 12:50 +0100
      Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format binding Michal Suchanek <hramrach@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 22:40 +0100
        Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format  binding David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> - 2015-12-07 04:10 +0100
          Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format  binding Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 21:50 +0100
            Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format binding Michal Suchanek <hramrach@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 17:00 +0100
    Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format  binding Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> - 2015-12-07 04:10 +0100

#1284455 — [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format binding

The platform description (such as the type of partition formats used on
a given flash) should be done independently of the flash driver in use.
However, we can't reasonably have *all* partition parsers run on all
flash (until they find a match), so let's overload the 'partitions'
subnode to support specifying which format(s) to try in the device tree.

Start by supporting Google's (Chrome OS) FMAP structure.

There have been others interested in extending devicetree support to
other parsers, like the bcm47xxpart parser:

  http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/475986/

and the AFS (ARM Flash Structure?) parser:

  http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/537827/

Signed-off-by: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
---
 .../devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt          | 75 ++++++++++++++++++++--
 1 file changed, 69 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
index 28ae56f5c972..1bf9a7243993 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
@@ -1,29 +1,56 @@
-Representing flash partitions in devicetree
+Flash partitions in device tree
+===============================
 
-Partitions can be represented by sub-nodes of an mtd device. This can be used
+Flash devices can be partitioned into one or more functional ranges (e.g.,
+"boot code", "nvram", and "kernel") in at least two distinct ways:
+
+ (A) a fixed flash layout at production time or
+ (B) with an on-flash partition table, such as RedBoot, that describes the
+     geometry and naming/purpose of each functional region
+
+The former typically requires an operating system to learn about the
+partitioning from some kind of metadata provided by the bootloader/firmware.
+Such partitions can be described using the method in "Section A: Fixed Partitions".
+
+The latter is somewhat analogous to partition tables used on block devices
+(e.g., MBR or GPT), except that there is less standardization for flash
+devices, and it is not always safe or efficient to attempt to search for all of
+them on every flash device in the system, particularly since many of them allow
+their data structures to be placed anywhere on the flash, and so require
+scanning the entire flash device to find them.
+
+To assist system software in locating these partition tables, we provide a
+binding to describe which partition format(s) may be used on a given flash,
+found below in "Section B: On-Flash Partition Tables".
+
+
+Section A: Fixed Partitions
+---------------------------
+
+Partitions can be represented by sub-nodes of a flash device. This can be used
 on platforms which have strong conventions about which portions of a flash are
 used for what purposes, but which don't use an on-flash partition table such
 as RedBoot.
 
-The partition table should be a subnode of the mtd node and should be named
+The partition table should be a subnode of the flash node and should be named
 'partitions'. This node should have the following property:
 - compatible : (required) must be "partitions"
 Partitions are then defined in subnodes of the partitions node.
 
-For backwards compatibility partitions as direct subnodes of the mtd device are
+For backwards compatibility partitions as direct subnodes of the flash device are
 supported. This use is discouraged.
 NOTE: also for backwards compatibility, direct subnodes that have a compatible
 string are not considered partitions, as they may be used for other bindings.
 
 #address-cells & #size-cells must both be present in the partitions subnode of the
-mtd device. There are two valid values for both:
+flash device. There are two valid values for both:
 <1>: for partitions that require a single 32-bit cell to represent their
      size/address (aka the value is below 4 GiB)
 <2>: for partitions that require two 32-bit cells to represent their
      size/address (aka the value is 4 GiB or greater).
 
 Required properties:
-- reg : The partition's offset and size within the mtd bank.
+- reg : The partition's offset and size within the flash
 
 Optional properties:
 - label : The label / name for this partition.  If omitted, the label is taken
@@ -89,3 +116,39 @@ flash@2 {
 		};
 	};
 };
+
+
+Section B: On-Flash Partition Tables
+------------------------------------
+
+System designers use a variety of on-flash data structures to describe the
+layout of the flash. Because it's not always optimal for system software to
+scan for every sort of data structure that might be used, one can specify which
+structure(s) might be used on a given flash using the 'partitions' subnode of
+the flash node.
+
+Node name: partitions
+Properties:
+ - compatible: (required) used to define which partition format(s) may be in
+   use on this flash may contain one or more of the strings defined in the
+   following subsections
+
+
+Google's FMAP (Flash MAP)
+#########################
+
+Often used to describe the boot flash on Chrome OS devices. Specified here:
+
+  https://github.com/dhendrix/flashmap/blob/wiki/FmapSpec.md
+
+Properties:
+- compatible: (required) must include "google,fmap"
+
+
+Examples:
+
+flash@0 {
+	partitions {
+		compatible = "google,fmap";
+	};
+};
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#1284535

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Brian Norris
<computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
> The platform description (such as the type of partition formats used on
> a given flash) should be done independently of the flash driver in use.
> However, we can't reasonably have *all* partition parsers run on all
> flash (until they find a match), so let's overload the 'partitions'
> subnode to support specifying which format(s) to try in the device tree.
>
> Start by supporting Google's (Chrome OS) FMAP structure.
>
> There have been others interested in extending devicetree support to
> other parsers, like the bcm47xxpart parser:
>
>   http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/475986/
>
> and the AFS (ARM Flash Structure?) parser:
>
>   http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/537827/
>
> Signed-off-by: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
> ---
>  .../devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt          | 75 ++++++++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 69 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
> index 28ae56f5c972..1bf9a7243993 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
> @@ -1,29 +1,56 @@
> -Representing flash partitions in devicetree
> +Flash partitions in device tree
> +===============================
>
> -Partitions can be represented by sub-nodes of an mtd device. This can be used
> +Flash devices can be partitioned into one or more functional ranges (e.g.,
> +"boot code", "nvram", and "kernel") in at least two distinct ways:
> +
> + (A) a fixed flash layout at production time or
> + (B) with an on-flash partition table, such as RedBoot, that describes the
> +     geometry and naming/purpose of each functional region
> +
> +The former typically requires an operating system to learn about the
> +partitioning from some kind of metadata provided by the bootloader/firmware.
> +Such partitions can be described using the method in "Section A: Fixed Partitions".
> +
> +The latter is somewhat analogous to partition tables used on block devices
> +(e.g., MBR or GPT), except that there is less standardization for flash
> +devices, and it is not always safe or efficient to attempt to search for all of
> +them on every flash device in the system, particularly since many of them allow
> +their data structures to be placed anywhere on the flash, and so require
> +scanning the entire flash device to find them.
> +
> +To assist system software in locating these partition tables, we provide a
> +binding to describe which partition format(s) may be used on a given flash,
> +found below in "Section B: On-Flash Partition Tables".
> +
> +
> +Section A: Fixed Partitions
> +---------------------------
> +
> +Partitions can be represented by sub-nodes of a flash device. This can be used
>  on platforms which have strong conventions about which portions of a flash are
>  used for what purposes, but which don't use an on-flash partition table such
>  as RedBoot.
>
> -The partition table should be a subnode of the mtd node and should be named
> +The partition table should be a subnode of the flash node and should be named
>  'partitions'. This node should have the following property:
>  - compatible : (required) must be "partitions"
>  Partitions are then defined in subnodes of the partitions node.
>
> -For backwards compatibility partitions as direct subnodes of the mtd device are
> +For backwards compatibility partitions as direct subnodes of the flash device are
>  supported. This use is discouraged.
>  NOTE: also for backwards compatibility, direct subnodes that have a compatible
>  string are not considered partitions, as they may be used for other bindings.
>
>  #address-cells & #size-cells must both be present in the partitions subnode of the
> -mtd device. There are two valid values for both:
> +flash device. There are two valid values for both:
>  <1>: for partitions that require a single 32-bit cell to represent their
>       size/address (aka the value is below 4 GiB)
>  <2>: for partitions that require two 32-bit cells to represent their
>       size/address (aka the value is 4 GiB or greater).
>
>  Required properties:
> -- reg : The partition's offset and size within the mtd bank.
> +- reg : The partition's offset and size within the flash
>
>  Optional properties:
>  - label : The label / name for this partition.  If omitted, the label is taken
> @@ -89,3 +116,39 @@ flash@2 {
>                 };
>         };
>  };
> +
> +
> +Section B: On-Flash Partition Tables
> +------------------------------------
> +
> +System designers use a variety of on-flash data structures to describe the
> +layout of the flash. Because it's not always optimal for system software to
> +scan for every sort of data structure that might be used, one can specify which
> +structure(s) might be used on a given flash using the 'partitions' subnode of
> +the flash node.
> +
> +Node name: partitions
> +Properties:
> + - compatible: (required) used to define which partition format(s) may be in
> +   use on this flash may contain one or more of the strings defined in the
> +   following subsections
> +
> +
> +Google's FMAP (Flash MAP)
> +#########################
> +
> +Often used to describe the boot flash on Chrome OS devices. Specified here:
> +
> +  https://github.com/dhendrix/flashmap/blob/wiki/FmapSpec.md
> +
> +Properties:
> +- compatible: (required) must include "google,fmap"
> +
> +
> +Examples:
> +
> +flash@0 {
> +       partitions {
> +               compatible = "google,fmap";
> +       };
> +};

I wonder if this wouldn't be better served in a separate binding doc
with its compatible name as the filename, like we do with
driver^Whardware blocks, especially if we want to add more parsers.


Jonas
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#1284648

On 5 December 2015 at 12:39, Jonas Gorski <jogo@openwrt.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Brian Norris
> <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:

>> +
>> +Examples:
>> +
>> +flash@0 {
>> +       partitions {
>> +               compatible = "google,fmap";
>> +       };
>> +};
>
> I wonder if this wouldn't be better served in a separate binding doc
> with its compatible name as the filename, like we do with
> driver^Whardware blocks, especially if we want to add more parsers.


I find that *very* counter productive for bindings that go to the same
node. You have a description of a node, and then suddenly there you
have another file with another description of the same node. Totally
awesome.

Also how do you plan to write partitioning schemes with parameters
like with non-zero offset of the partition table.

Thanks

Michal
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#1284976 — Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format binding

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On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 10:33:30PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> On 5 December 2015 at 12:39, Jonas Gorski <jogo@openwrt.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Brian Norris
> > <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >> +
> >> +Examples:
> >> +
> >> +flash@0 {
> >> +       partitions {
> >> +               compatible = "google,fmap";
> >> +       };
> >> +};
> >
> > I wonder if this wouldn't be better served in a separate binding doc
> > with its compatible name as the filename, like we do with
> > driver^Whardware blocks, especially if we want to add more parsers.
> 
> 
> I find that *very* counter productive for bindings that go to the same
> node. You have a description of a node, and then suddenly there you
> have another file with another description of the same node. Totally
> awesome.

I can't actually work out from that if you're agreeing with the
original post or the first reply.

> Also how do you plan to write partitioning schemes with parameters
> like with non-zero offset of the partition table.

Presumably with properties in the patitions node.  Not seeing the
problem here.

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#1288915 — Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format binding

On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 12:36:28PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 10:33:30PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> > On 5 December 2015 at 12:39, Jonas Gorski <jogo@openwrt.org> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Brian Norris
> > > <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >> +
> > >> +Examples:
> > >> +
> > >> +flash@0 {
> > >> +       partitions {
> > >> +               compatible = "google,fmap";
> > >> +       };
> > >> +};
> > >
> > > I wonder if this wouldn't be better served in a separate binding doc
> > > with its compatible name as the filename, like we do with
> > > driver^Whardware blocks, especially if we want to add more parsers.
> > 
> > 
> > I find that *very* counter productive for bindings that go to the same
> > node. You have a description of a node, and then suddenly there you
> > have another file with another description of the same node. Totally
> > awesome.
> 
> I can't actually work out from that if you're agreeing with the
> original post or the first reply.

Perhaps I'm biased, but I think he was agreeing with the first reply.
(Particularly, "I find that *very* counter productive" uses the word
"that" to refer to "separate binding doc[s]".)

> > Also how do you plan to write partitioning schemes with parameters
> > like with non-zero offset of the partition table.

If you are directing this question at me: I don't have a specific plan
for it. MTD parsers don't currently take external input for this; many
scan the whole device, but some might also have conventions built into
the parser itself too, so this just gets hooked based on "compatible".
But if the need arose, I would hope we could work out a common binding.

> Presumably with properties in the patitions node.  Not seeing the
> problem here.

I believe Michal is bringing up the (important, IMO) point that if
distinct partition types are being described in the same node, then any
use of additional properties *must* be closely coordinated. We can't
have two parsers "foo" and "bar" defining conflicting uses of the same
property in the same node, like this:

	partitions {
		compatible = "foo", "bar";
		property-baz = ...; // e.g., reg = <...>;
	};

where if "foo" is not found, we fall back to "bar". But what if "foo"
and "bar" use "property-baz" differently?

Having everything in one doc would help ensure that the entire
"partitions" binding is considered as a whole when extending it, in my
(and an in my interpretation of Michal's) opinion.

Brian
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#1289696

Hello,

On 10 December 2015 at 21:43, Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 07, 2015 at 12:36:28PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 10:33:30PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote:
>> > On 5 December 2015 at 12:39, Jonas Gorski <jogo@openwrt.org> wrote:
>> > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Brian Norris
>> > > <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> +
>> > >> +Examples:
>> > >> +
>> > >> +flash@0 {
>> > >> +       partitions {
>> > >> +               compatible = "google,fmap";
>> > >> +       };
>> > >> +};
>> > >
>> > > I wonder if this wouldn't be better served in a separate binding doc
>> > > with its compatible name as the filename, like we do with
>> > > driver^Whardware blocks, especially if we want to add more parsers.
>> >
>> >
>> > I find that *very* counter productive for bindings that go to the same
>> > node. You have a description of a node, and then suddenly there you
>> > have another file with another description of the same node. Totally
>> > awesome.
>>
>> I can't actually work out from that if you're agreeing with the
>> original post or the first reply.
>
> Perhaps I'm biased, but I think he was agreeing with the first reply.
> (Particularly, "I find that *very* counter productive" uses the word
> "that" to refer to "separate binding doc[s]".)
>
>
> I believe Michal is bringing up the (important, IMO) point that if
> distinct partition types are being described in the same node, then any
> use of additional properties *must* be closely coordinated. We can't
> have two parsers "foo" and "bar" defining conflicting uses of the same
> property in the same node, like this:
>

I have seen some MFD bindings which are described in multiple files
with no crossreference whatsoever.

If on-flash partition table bindings are going to be the same then
people are not going to find there are even some on-flash partition
table bindings (because the document describing the in-DT bindings is
complete and exhaustive, right). Can't even imagine coordination.

When you have to grep the tree for docs anyway what's even the point
of the Documentation directory?

You can just grep the whole tree.

Thanks

Michal
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#1284977 — Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] doc: dt: mtd: partition: add on-flash format binding

On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:19:19PM -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> The platform description (such as the type of partition formats used on
> a given flash) should be done independently of the flash driver in use.
> However, we can't reasonably have *all* partition parsers run on all
> flash (until they find a match), so let's overload the 'partitions'
> subnode to support specifying which format(s) to try in the device tree.
> 
> Start by supporting Google's (Chrome OS) FMAP structure.
> 
> There have been others interested in extending devicetree support to
> other parsers, like the bcm47xxpart parser:
> 
>   http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/475986/
> 
> and the AFS (ARM Flash Structure?) parser:
> 
>   http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/537827/
> 
> Signed-off-by: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>

Looks good to me. If you had lots of partitions, I'd agree with comments 
that they should be separate files, but I doubt we'll have many 10s of 
them. Plus all we really need here is a list of compatible strings. 

Acked-by: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>

> ---
>  .../devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt          | 75 ++++++++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 69 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
> index 28ae56f5c972..1bf9a7243993 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partition.txt
> @@ -1,29 +1,56 @@
> -Representing flash partitions in devicetree
> +Flash partitions in device tree
> +===============================
>  
> -Partitions can be represented by sub-nodes of an mtd device. This can be used
> +Flash devices can be partitioned into one or more functional ranges (e.g.,
> +"boot code", "nvram", and "kernel") in at least two distinct ways:
> +
> + (A) a fixed flash layout at production time or
> + (B) with an on-flash partition table, such as RedBoot, that describes the
> +     geometry and naming/purpose of each functional region
> +
> +The former typically requires an operating system to learn about the
> +partitioning from some kind of metadata provided by the bootloader/firmware.
> +Such partitions can be described using the method in "Section A: Fixed Partitions".
> +
> +The latter is somewhat analogous to partition tables used on block devices
> +(e.g., MBR or GPT), except that there is less standardization for flash
> +devices, and it is not always safe or efficient to attempt to search for all of
> +them on every flash device in the system, particularly since many of them allow
> +their data structures to be placed anywhere on the flash, and so require
> +scanning the entire flash device to find them.
> +
> +To assist system software in locating these partition tables, we provide a
> +binding to describe which partition format(s) may be used on a given flash,
> +found below in "Section B: On-Flash Partition Tables".
> +
> +
> +Section A: Fixed Partitions
> +---------------------------
> +
> +Partitions can be represented by sub-nodes of a flash device. This can be used
>  on platforms which have strong conventions about which portions of a flash are
>  used for what purposes, but which don't use an on-flash partition table such
>  as RedBoot.
>  
> -The partition table should be a subnode of the mtd node and should be named
> +The partition table should be a subnode of the flash node and should be named
>  'partitions'. This node should have the following property:
>  - compatible : (required) must be "partitions"
>  Partitions are then defined in subnodes of the partitions node.
>  
> -For backwards compatibility partitions as direct subnodes of the mtd device are
> +For backwards compatibility partitions as direct subnodes of the flash device are
>  supported. This use is discouraged.
>  NOTE: also for backwards compatibility, direct subnodes that have a compatible
>  string are not considered partitions, as they may be used for other bindings.
>  
>  #address-cells & #size-cells must both be present in the partitions subnode of the
> -mtd device. There are two valid values for both:
> +flash device. There are two valid values for both:
>  <1>: for partitions that require a single 32-bit cell to represent their
>       size/address (aka the value is below 4 GiB)
>  <2>: for partitions that require two 32-bit cells to represent their
>       size/address (aka the value is 4 GiB or greater).
>  
>  Required properties:
> -- reg : The partition's offset and size within the mtd bank.
> +- reg : The partition's offset and size within the flash
>  
>  Optional properties:
>  - label : The label / name for this partition.  If omitted, the label is taken
> @@ -89,3 +116,39 @@ flash@2 {
>  		};
>  	};
>  };
> +
> +
> +Section B: On-Flash Partition Tables
> +------------------------------------
> +
> +System designers use a variety of on-flash data structures to describe the
> +layout of the flash. Because it's not always optimal for system software to
> +scan for every sort of data structure that might be used, one can specify which
> +structure(s) might be used on a given flash using the 'partitions' subnode of
> +the flash node.
> +
> +Node name: partitions
> +Properties:
> + - compatible: (required) used to define which partition format(s) may be in
> +   use on this flash may contain one or more of the strings defined in the
> +   following subsections
> +
> +
> +Google's FMAP (Flash MAP)
> +#########################
> +
> +Often used to describe the boot flash on Chrome OS devices. Specified here:
> +
> +  https://github.com/dhendrix/flashmap/blob/wiki/FmapSpec.md
> +
> +Properties:
> +- compatible: (required) must include "google,fmap"
> +
> +
> +Examples:
> +
> +flash@0 {
> +	partitions {
> +		compatible = "google,fmap";
> +	};
> +};
> -- 
> 2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0
> 
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