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Re: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: Context-track syscalls before enabling interrupts

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First post2015-08-21 10:00 +0200
Last post2015-08-21 15:20 +0200
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  Re: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: Context-track syscalls before enabling  interrupts Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-08-21 10:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: Context-track syscalls before enabling  interrupts Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 15:20 +0200

#1210986 — Re: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: Context-track syscalls before enabling interrupts

FromIngo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Date2015-08-21 10:00 +0200
SubjectRe: [PATCH] x86/entry/64: Context-track syscalls before enabling interrupts
Message-ID<pZPoZ-5LS-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I want to have a real hook to call that says "switch to IRQ context from 
> > CONTEXT_USER" or "switch to IRQ context from CONTEXT_KERNEL" (aka noop), but 
> > that doesn't currently exist.
> 
> You're not answering _why_ you want that.

So we'd have a comprehensive, 100% coverage, self-sufficient set of callbacks that 
track the kernel's current context state at the points where the context switches 
actually occur - not just something cobbled together heterogenously. The low level 
x86 asm code was rather messy in this area, better organization would be welcome, 
I don't think we can overdo it.

( I'm assuming here that it can all be done for zero or negative cost, and that
  the result will be correct and won't hurt existing users in any fashion. )

Thanks,

	Ingo
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FromFrederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-21 15:20 +0200
Message-ID<pZUoG-4Fe-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1210986
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 09:50:35AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > I want to have a real hook to call that says "switch to IRQ context from 
> > > CONTEXT_USER" or "switch to IRQ context from CONTEXT_KERNEL" (aka noop), but 
> > > that doesn't currently exist.
> > 
> > You're not answering _why_ you want that.
> 
> So we'd have a comprehensive, 100% coverage, self-sufficient set of callbacks that 
> track the kernel's current context state at the points where the context switches 
> actually occur - not just something cobbled together heterogenously. The low level 
> x86 asm code was rather messy in this area, better organization would be welcome, 
> I don't think we can overdo it.
> 
> ( I'm assuming here that it can all be done for zero or negative cost, and that
>   the result will be correct and won't hurt existing users in any fashion. )

Sure, if x86 needs such a thing for internal organization it's ok, but don't
do context tracking calls there. irq_enter() and irq_exit() already take care
of RCU and time accounting. What Andy is doing is roughly like calling these
callbacks twice for no reason. It's horrible for IRQ performances.

The merge window is like tomorrow and he keeps arguing against that obvious
regression instead of fixing it.

Thanks.

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