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Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org> - 2015-08-05 08:10 +0200
Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2015-08-07 09:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org> - 2015-08-08 01:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 02:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org> - 2015-08-08 07:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 07:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2015-08-08 14:40 +0200
Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de> - 2015-08-08 11:00 +0200
Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 11:10 +0200
Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de> - 2015-08-13 08:10 +0200
| From | Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-08-05 08:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios |
| Message-ID | <pU03L-17l-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 13:36 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 02, 2015 at 10:58:22PM -0700, Ming Lin wrote:
> > I think the important thing is the late splitting for regular bio.
> > For discard/write_same bio, how about just don't do late splitting?
>
> I'd hate having to special case them even more. Especially as the
> discard splitting is nasty and we really don't want to send giant
> discards by default anyway (see Jens' patches to limit discard size
> by default).
>
> So I'd recommend to keep everything as-is, just make sure we don't
> overflow bi_size.
Did you mean to remove "PATCH 4 block: remove split code in
blkdev_issue_discard" or to keep it?
Which of below 2 solutions you prefer?
- Solution 1
remove splits in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same} and keep
blk_bio_{discard,write_same}_split
But for blkdev_issue_discard(), it's not enough if only make sure
bi_size not overflow, for example, discard 4G
4G bytes = 8388608 sectors
UINT_MAX = 8388607 sectors
So blkdev_issue_discard() will send 2 discard bios.
First bio: sector 0 .. 8388606
Second bio: sector 8388607 .. 8388607
In this case, the 2 discard tests in device-mapper-test-suite still
fail, probably because the second bio start sector is not aligned with
discard_granularity.
So I have to take into account discard_granularity(assume 32 sectors),
then blkdev_issue_discard() will send 2 discard bios, as
First bio: sector 0 .. 8388575
Second bio: sector 8388576 .. 8388607
In this case, both discard tests passed.
- Solution 2
special case discard/write_same bios(You said you hate it).
That is to keep splits in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same} and remove
blk_bio_{discard,write_same}_split
I think this is more clean way because blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}
already make sure we don't overflow bi_size.
And blk_bio_{discard,write_same}_split are actually duplicated with the
splits in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}. It's OK to remove it.
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| From | Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 09:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pUKpY-1dl-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1200428 |
I'm for solution 3:
- keep blk_bio_{discard,write_same}_split, but ensure we never built
a > 4GB bio in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}.
Note that this isn't special casing, we can't build > 4GB bios for
data either, it's just implemented as a side effect right now instead
of checked explicitly.
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| From | Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 01:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pUZyG-6z7-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1202378 |
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 09:30 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> I'm for solution 3:
>
> - keep blk_bio_{discard,write_same}_split, but ensure we never built
> a > 4GB bio in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}.
This has problem as I mentioned in solution 1.
We need to also make sure max discard size is of proper granularity.
See below example.
4G: 8388608 sectors
UINT_MAX: 8388607 sectors
dm-thinp block size = default discard granularity = 128 sectors
blkdev_issue_discard(sector=0, nr_sectors=8388608)
1. Only ensure bi_size not overflow
It doesn't work.
[start_sector, end_sector]
[0, 8388607]
[0, 8388606], then dm-thinp splits it to 2 bios
[0, 8388479]
[8388480, 8388606] ---> this has problem in process_discard_bio(),
because the discard size(7 sectors) covers less than a block(128 sectors)
[8388607, 8388607] ---> same problem
2. Ensure bi_size not overflow and max discard size is of proper granularity
It works.
[start_sector, end_sector]
[0, 8388607]
[0, 8388479]
[8388480, 8388607]
So how about below patch?
commit 1ca2ad977255efb3c339f4ca16fb798ed5ec54f7
Author: Ming Lin <ming.l@ssi.samsung.com>
Date: Fri Aug 7 15:07:07 2015 -0700
block: remove split code in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}
The split code in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same} can go away
now that any driver that cares does the split. We have to make
sure bio size doesn't overflow.
For discard, we ensure max_discard_sectors is of the proper
granularity. So if discard size > 4G, blkdev_issue_discard() always
send multiple granularity requests to lower level, except that the
last one may be not multiple granularity.
Signed-off-by: Ming Lin <ming.l@ssi.samsung.com>
---
block/blk-lib.c | 37 +++++++++----------------------------
1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
diff --git a/block/blk-lib.c b/block/blk-lib.c
index 7688ee3..e178a07 100644
--- a/block/blk-lib.c
+++ b/block/blk-lib.c
@@ -44,7 +44,6 @@ int blkdev_issue_discard(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
struct request_queue *q = bdev_get_queue(bdev);
int type = REQ_WRITE | REQ_DISCARD;
unsigned int max_discard_sectors, granularity;
- int alignment;
struct bio_batch bb;
struct bio *bio;
int ret = 0;
@@ -58,18 +57,15 @@ int blkdev_issue_discard(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
/* Zero-sector (unknown) and one-sector granularities are the same. */
granularity = max(q->limits.discard_granularity >> 9, 1U);
- alignment = (bdev_discard_alignment(bdev) >> 9) % granularity;
/*
- * Ensure that max_discard_sectors is of the proper
- * granularity, so that requests stay aligned after a split.
- */
- max_discard_sectors = min(q->limits.max_discard_sectors, UINT_MAX >> 9);
+ * Ensure that max_discard_sectors doesn't overflow bi_size and is of
+ * the proper granularity. So if discard size > 4G, blkdev_issue_discard()
+ * always split and send multiple granularity requests to lower level,
+ * except that the last one may be not multiple granularity.
+ */
+ max_discard_sectors = UINT_MAX >> 9;
max_discard_sectors -= max_discard_sectors % granularity;
- if (unlikely(!max_discard_sectors)) {
- /* Avoid infinite loop below. Being cautious never hurts. */
- return -EOPNOTSUPP;
- }
if (flags & BLKDEV_DISCARD_SECURE) {
if (!blk_queue_secdiscard(q))
@@ -84,7 +80,7 @@ int blkdev_issue_discard(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
blk_start_plug(&plug);
while (nr_sects) {
unsigned int req_sects;
- sector_t end_sect, tmp;
+ sector_t end_sect;
bio = bio_alloc(gfp_mask, 1);
if (!bio) {
@@ -93,20 +89,7 @@ int blkdev_issue_discard(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
}
req_sects = min_t(sector_t, nr_sects, max_discard_sectors);
-
- /*
- * If splitting a request, and the next starting sector would be
- * misaligned, stop the discard at the previous aligned sector.
- */
end_sect = sector + req_sects;
- tmp = end_sect;
- if (req_sects < nr_sects &&
- sector_div(tmp, granularity) != alignment) {
- end_sect = end_sect - alignment;
- sector_div(end_sect, granularity);
- end_sect = end_sect * granularity + alignment;
- req_sects = end_sect - sector;
- }
bio->bi_iter.bi_sector = sector;
bio->bi_end_io = bio_batch_end_io;
@@ -166,10 +149,8 @@ int blkdev_issue_write_same(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
if (!q)
return -ENXIO;
- max_write_same_sectors = q->limits.max_write_same_sectors;
-
- if (max_write_same_sectors == 0)
- return -EOPNOTSUPP;
+ /* Ensure that max_write_same_sectors doesn't overflow bi_size */
+ max_write_same_sectors = UINT_MAX >> 9;
atomic_set(&bb.done, 1);
bb.flags = 1 << BIO_UPTODATE;
>
> Note that this isn't special casing, we can't build > 4GB bios for
> data either, it's just implemented as a side effect right now instead
> of checked explicitly.
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| From | Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 02:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pV0l4-7Uh-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1203096 |
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 04:40:06PM -0700, Ming Lin wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 09:30 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > I'm for solution 3:
> >
> > - keep blk_bio_{discard,write_same}_split, but ensure we never built
> > a > 4GB bio in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}.
>
> This has problem as I mentioned in solution 1.
> We need to also make sure max discard size is of proper granularity.
> See below example.
>
> 4G: 8388608 sectors
> UINT_MAX: 8388607 sectors
>
> dm-thinp block size = default discard granularity = 128 sectors
>
> blkdev_issue_discard(sector=0, nr_sectors=8388608)
>
> 1. Only ensure bi_size not overflow
>
> It doesn't work.
>
> [start_sector, end_sector]
> [0, 8388607]
> [0, 8388606], then dm-thinp splits it to 2 bios
> [0, 8388479]
> [8388480, 8388606] ---> this has problem in process_discard_bio(),
> because the discard size(7 sectors) covers less than a block(128 sectors)
> [8388607, 8388607] ---> same problem
>
> 2. Ensure bi_size not overflow and max discard size is of proper granularity
Ideally we'd get upper layers out of the business of knowing about the queue
limits at all - that was the point of the patch series, after all.
Instead of using UINT_MAX, would it work to just make the max 1 << 31 sectors?
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| From | Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 07:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pV4I1-5Ui-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1203111 |
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Kent Overstreet
<kent.overstreet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 04:40:06PM -0700, Ming Lin wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 09:30 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> > I'm for solution 3:
>> >
>> > - keep blk_bio_{discard,write_same}_split, but ensure we never built
>> > a > 4GB bio in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}.
>>
>> This has problem as I mentioned in solution 1.
>> We need to also make sure max discard size is of proper granularity.
>> See below example.
>>
>> 4G: 8388608 sectors
>> UINT_MAX: 8388607 sectors
>>
>> dm-thinp block size = default discard granularity = 128 sectors
>>
>> blkdev_issue_discard(sector=0, nr_sectors=8388608)
>>
>> 1. Only ensure bi_size not overflow
>>
>> It doesn't work.
>>
>> [start_sector, end_sector]
>> [0, 8388607]
>> [0, 8388606], then dm-thinp splits it to 2 bios
>> [0, 8388479]
>> [8388480, 8388606] ---> this has problem in process_discard_bio(),
>> because the discard size(7 sectors) covers less than a block(128 sectors)
>> [8388607, 8388607] ---> same problem
>>
>> 2. Ensure bi_size not overflow and max discard size is of proper granularity
>
> Ideally we'd get upper layers out of the business of knowing about the queue
> limits at all - that was the point of the patch series, after all.
>
> Instead of using UINT_MAX, would it work to just make the max 1 << 31 sectors?'
1 << 31 = 2G bytes = 0x400000 sectors.
Yes, that works as long as it's multiple of granularity.
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| From | Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 07:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pV4RI-65k-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1203173 |
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:17:43PM -0700, Ming Lin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Kent Overstreet > > Ideally we'd get upper layers out of the business of knowing about the queue > > limits at all - that was the point of the patch series, after all. > > > > Instead of using UINT_MAX, would it work to just make the max 1 << 31 sectors?' > > 1 << 31 = 2G bytes = 0x400000 sectors. > > Yes, that works as long as it's multiple of granularity. Is granularity required to be a power of two? One would hope, but looking at the code that doesn't appear to be a requirement... ugh, that's terrible... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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| From | Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 14:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pVbzR-7gg-25@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1203175 |
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 09:22:26PM -0800, Kent Overstreet wrote: > Is granularity required to be a power of two? One would hope, but looking at the > code that doesn't appear to be a requirement... ugh, that's terrible... If devices have an odd granularity we'll just have to split more than nessecary. Let's hope no major hardware does that. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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| From | Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-08-08 11:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios |
| Message-ID | <pV88V-2e9-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1203096 |
On 08/08/2015 01:40 AM, Ming Lin wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 09:30 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> I'm for solution 3:
>>
>> - keep blk_bio_{discard,write_same}_split, but ensure we never built
>> a > 4GB bio in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}.
>
> This has problem as I mentioned in solution 1.
> We need to also make sure max discard size is of proper granularity.
> See below example.
>
> 4G: 8388608 sectors
> UINT_MAX: 8388607 sectors
>
> dm-thinp block size = default discard granularity = 128 sectors
>
> blkdev_issue_discard(sector=0, nr_sectors=8388608)
>
> 1. Only ensure bi_size not overflow
>
> It doesn't work.
>
> [start_sector, end_sector]
> [0, 8388607]
> [0, 8388606], then dm-thinp splits it to 2 bios
> [0, 8388479]
> [8388480, 8388606] ---> this has problem in process_discard_bio(),
> because the discard size(7 sectors) covers less than a block(128 sectors)
> [8388607, 8388607] ---> same problem
>
> 2. Ensure bi_size not overflow and max discard size is of proper granularity
>
> It works.
>
> [start_sector, end_sector]
> [0, 8388607]
> [0, 8388479]
> [8388480, 8388607]
>
>
> So how about below patch?
>
> commit 1ca2ad977255efb3c339f4ca16fb798ed5ec54f7
> Author: Ming Lin <ming.l@ssi.samsung.com>
> Date: Fri Aug 7 15:07:07 2015 -0700
>
> block: remove split code in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same}
>
> The split code in blkdev_issue_{discard,write_same} can go away
> now that any driver that cares does the split. We have to make
> sure bio size doesn't overflow.
>
> For discard, we ensure max_discard_sectors is of the proper
> granularity. So if discard size > 4G, blkdev_issue_discard() always
> send multiple granularity requests to lower level, except that the
> last one may be not multiple granularity.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ming Lin <ming.l@ssi.samsung.com>
> ---
> block/blk-lib.c | 37 +++++++++----------------------------
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/block/blk-lib.c b/block/blk-lib.c
> index 7688ee3..e178a07 100644
> --- a/block/blk-lib.c
> +++ b/block/blk-lib.c
> @@ -44,7 +44,6 @@ int blkdev_issue_discard(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
> struct request_queue *q = bdev_get_queue(bdev);
> int type = REQ_WRITE | REQ_DISCARD;
> unsigned int max_discard_sectors, granularity;
> - int alignment;
> struct bio_batch bb;
> struct bio *bio;
> int ret = 0;
> @@ -58,18 +57,15 @@ int blkdev_issue_discard(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
>
> /* Zero-sector (unknown) and one-sector granularities are the same. */
> granularity = max(q->limits.discard_granularity >> 9, 1U);
> - alignment = (bdev_discard_alignment(bdev) >> 9) % granularity;
>
> /*
> - * Ensure that max_discard_sectors is of the proper
> - * granularity, so that requests stay aligned after a split.
> - */
> - max_discard_sectors = min(q->limits.max_discard_sectors, UINT_MAX >> 9);
> + * Ensure that max_discard_sectors doesn't overflow bi_size and is of
> + * the proper granularity. So if discard size > 4G, blkdev_issue_discard()
> + * always split and send multiple granularity requests to lower level,
> + * except that the last one may be not multiple granularity.
> + */
> + max_discard_sectors = UINT_MAX >> 9;
> max_discard_sectors -= max_discard_sectors % granularity;
> - if (unlikely(!max_discard_sectors)) {
> - /* Avoid infinite loop below. Being cautious never hurts. */
> - return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> - }
>
> if (flags & BLKDEV_DISCARD_SECURE) {
> if (!blk_queue_secdiscard(q))
> @@ -84,7 +80,7 @@ int blkdev_issue_discard(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
> blk_start_plug(&plug);
> while (nr_sects) {
> unsigned int req_sects;
> - sector_t end_sect, tmp;
> + sector_t end_sect;
>
> bio = bio_alloc(gfp_mask, 1);
> if (!bio) {
> @@ -93,20 +89,7 @@ int blkdev_issue_discard(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
> }
>
> req_sects = min_t(sector_t, nr_sects, max_discard_sectors);
> -
> - /*
> - * If splitting a request, and the next starting sector would be
> - * misaligned, stop the discard at the previous aligned sector.
> - */
> end_sect = sector + req_sects;
> - tmp = end_sect;
> - if (req_sects < nr_sects &&
> - sector_div(tmp, granularity) != alignment) {
> - end_sect = end_sect - alignment;
> - sector_div(end_sect, granularity);
> - end_sect = end_sect * granularity + alignment;
> - req_sects = end_sect - sector;
> - }
>
> bio->bi_iter.bi_sector = sector;
> bio->bi_end_io = bio_batch_end_io;
> @@ -166,10 +149,8 @@ int blkdev_issue_write_same(struct block_device *bdev, sector_t sector,
> if (!q)
> return -ENXIO;
>
> - max_write_same_sectors = q->limits.max_write_same_sectors;
> -
> - if (max_write_same_sectors == 0)
> - return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> + /* Ensure that max_write_same_sectors doesn't overflow bi_size */
> + max_write_same_sectors = UINT_MAX >> 9;
>
> atomic_set(&bb.done, 1);
> bb.flags = 1 << BIO_UPTODATE;
>
Wouldn't it be easier to move both max_write_same_sectors and
max_discard sectors to 64 bit (ie to type sector_t) and be done with the
overflow?
Seems to me this is far too much coding around self-imposed restrictions...
Cheers,
Hannes
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| From | Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-08-08 11:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios |
| Message-ID | <pV8iB-2EX-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1203226 |
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 10:52:24AM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > Wouldn't it be easier to move both max_write_same_sectors and > max_discard sectors to 64 bit (ie to type sector_t) and be done with the > overflow? > Seems to me this is far too much coding around self-imposed restrictions... It's bio->bi_iter.bi_size that would have to be increased to 64 bits. Which I suppose wouldn't actually increase the size of struct bio (when sector_t is 64 bits), since struct bvec_iter has padding right now... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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| From | Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 08:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios |
| Message-ID | <pWTS9-3aP-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1203230 |
On 08/08/2015 11:02 AM, Kent Overstreet wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 10:52:24AM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote: >> Wouldn't it be easier to move both max_write_same_sectors and >> max_discard sectors to 64 bit (ie to type sector_t) and be done with the >> overflow? >> Seems to me this is far too much coding around self-imposed restrictions... > > It's bio->bi_iter.bi_size that would have to be increased to 64 bits. Which I > suppose wouldn't actually increase the size of struct bio (when sector_t is 64 > bits), since struct bvec_iter has padding right now... > Which I guess we should be doing anyway. Devices are getting larger and larger, so in the long run in need to be moved to 64 bits. Cheers, Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke zSeries & Storage hare@suse.de +49 911 74053 688 SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: F. Imendörffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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