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Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/12] rcu: Panic if RCU tree can not accommodate all CPUs "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-07-30 17:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/12] rcu: Panic if RCU tree can not accommodate all CPUs Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2015-07-30 17:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/12] rcu: Panic if RCU tree can not accommodate all CPUs Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2015-07-30 17:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/12] rcu: Panic if RCU tree can not accommodate all CPUs "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-07-30 18:00 +0200
Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/12] rcu: Panic if RCU tree can not accommodate all CPUs "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-07-31 18:00 +0200
| From | "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-30 17:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/12] rcu: Panic if RCU tree can not accommodate all CPUs |
| Message-ID | <pRXWq-2jR-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 02:28:35PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 03:30:53PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > + if (n > rcu_capacity[MAX_RCU_LVLS])
> > + panic("rcu_init_geometry: rcu_capacity[] is too small");
>
> How can this ever happen? We _know_ NR_CPUS at compile time, there's no
> way we can get more CPUs than that -- even if the hardware has more,
> we'll stop enumerating.
You can make this happen by building with CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=2 and
CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=2, then running on a system with more than 16 CPUs.
The kernel boot parameter rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=2 can be substituted for
CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=2, hence the need for a runtime test. I do this
sort of thing for my rcutorture testing in order to test a four-level
rcu_node tree with only 16 CPUs.
Thanx, Paul
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| From | Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> |
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| Date | 2015-07-30 17:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pRY65-2v3-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1196125 |
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:25:17AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 02:28:35PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 03:30:53PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > + if (n > rcu_capacity[MAX_RCU_LVLS])
> > > + panic("rcu_init_geometry: rcu_capacity[] is too small");
> >
> > How can this ever happen? We _know_ NR_CPUS at compile time, there's no
> > way we can get more CPUs than that -- even if the hardware has more,
> > we'll stop enumerating.
>
> You can make this happen by building with CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=2 and
> CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=2, then running on a system with more than 16 CPUs.
> The kernel boot parameter rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=2 can be substituted for
> CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=2, hence the need for a runtime test. I do this
> sort of thing for my rcutorture testing in order to test a four-level
> rcu_node tree with only 16 CPUs.
How about we make the build fail if NR_CPUS exceeds that maximum fanout?
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| From | Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> |
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| Date | 2015-07-30 17:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pRY66-2v3-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1196135 |
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 05:32:51PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:25:17AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 02:28:35PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 03:30:53PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > + if (n > rcu_capacity[MAX_RCU_LVLS])
> > > > + panic("rcu_init_geometry: rcu_capacity[] is too small");
> > >
> > > How can this ever happen? We _know_ NR_CPUS at compile time, there's no
> > > way we can get more CPUs than that -- even if the hardware has more,
> > > we'll stop enumerating.
> >
> > You can make this happen by building with CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=2 and
> > CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=2, then running on a system with more than 16 CPUs.
> > The kernel boot parameter rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=2 can be substituted for
> > CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=2, hence the need for a runtime test. I do this
> > sort of thing for my rcutorture testing in order to test a four-level
> > rcu_node tree with only 16 CPUs.
>
> How about we make the build fail if NR_CPUS exceeds that maximum fanout?
Or better yet, auto-select these numbers based on NR_CPUS and remove the
configs.
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| From | "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-30 18:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pRYps-2RD-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1196135 |
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 05:32:51PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:25:17AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 02:28:35PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 03:30:53PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > + if (n > rcu_capacity[MAX_RCU_LVLS])
> > > > + panic("rcu_init_geometry: rcu_capacity[] is too small");
> > >
> > > How can this ever happen? We _know_ NR_CPUS at compile time, there's no
> > > way we can get more CPUs than that -- even if the hardware has more,
> > > we'll stop enumerating.
> >
> > You can make this happen by building with CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=2 and
> > CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=2, then running on a system with more than 16 CPUs.
> > The kernel boot parameter rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=2 can be substituted for
> > CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=2, hence the need for a runtime test. I do this
> > sort of thing for my rcutorture testing in order to test a four-level
> > rcu_node tree with only 16 CPUs.
>
> How about we make the build fail if NR_CPUS exceeds that maximum fanout?
Good point, and it already does, and I clearly was confused, apologies.
So the real way to make this happen is (for example) to build
with CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=2 and CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=16 (the
default), which could accommodate up to 128 CPUs. Then boot with
rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=2 on a system with more than 16 CPUs, with
rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=3 on a system with more than 24 CPUs, and so on.
Of course, the truly macho way to get this error message is to build
with CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=64 and CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=64, then boot with
rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=63 on a system with more than 16,515,072 CPUs.
Of course, you get serious style points if the system manages to stay
up for more than 24 hours without a hardware failure. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
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| From | "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-31 18:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pSkT1-1TL-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1196153 |
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 06:22:02PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 08:54:54AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > Good point, and it already does, and I clearly was confused, apologies.
> >
> > So the real way to make this happen is (for example) to build
> > with CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=2 and CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=16 (the
> > default), which could accommodate up to 128 CPUs. Then boot with
> > rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=2 on a system with more than 16 CPUs, with
> > rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=3 on a system with more than 24 CPUs, and so on.
>
> Ah, runtime overrides and operator error, but then we can WARN(), reset
> the arguments and try again, right? No need to panic the machine and
> fail to boot.
Good point, like the patch below? Which also legitimizes my
example after the fact, as it previously simply prohibited having
rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf less than CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF. :-/
> > Of course, the truly macho way to get this error message is to build
> > with CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=64 and CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_LEAF=64, then boot with
> > rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf=63 on a system with more than 16,515,072 CPUs.
> > Of course, you get serious style points if the system manages to stay
> > up for more than 24 hours without a hardware failure. ;-)
>
> Yes, I'll go power up the nuclear reactor in the basement first :-)
Only one? ;-)
Thanx, Paul
------------------------------------------------------------------------
rcu: Eliminate panic when silly boot-time fanout specified
This commit loosens rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf range checks
and replaces a panic() with a fallback to compile-time values.
This fallback is accompanied by a WARN_ON(), and both occur when the
rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf value is too small to accommodate the number of
CPUs. For example, given the current four-level limit for the rcu_node
tree, a system with more than 16 CPUs built with CONFIG_FANOUT=2 must
have rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf larger than 2.
Reported-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 01b5b68a237a..2a5d4696bdb9 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -3059,9 +3059,12 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be entirely omitted.
cache-to-cache transfer latencies.
rcutree.rcu_fanout_leaf= [KNL]
- Increase the number of CPUs assigned to each
- leaf rcu_node structure. Useful for very large
- systems.
+ Change the number of CPUs assigned to each
+ leaf rcu_node structure. Useful for very
+ large systems, which will choose the value 64,
+ and for NUMA systems with large remote-access
+ latencies, which will choose a value aligned
+ with the appropriate hardware boundaries.
rcutree.jiffies_till_sched_qs= [KNL]
Set required age in jiffies for a
diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
index ce43fac5ff91..9f8040396d3e 100644
--- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c
+++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
@@ -4216,13 +4216,12 @@ static void __init rcu_init_geometry(void)
rcu_fanout_leaf, nr_cpu_ids);
/*
- * The boot-time rcu_fanout_leaf parameter is only permitted
- * to increase the leaf-level fanout, not decrease it. Of course,
- * the leaf-level fanout cannot exceed the number of bits in
- * the rcu_node masks. Complain and fall back to the compile-
- * time values if these limits are exceeded.
+ * The boot-time rcu_fanout_leaf parameter must be at least two
+ * and cannot exceed the number of bits in the rcu_node masks.
+ * Complain and fall back to the compile-time values if this
+ * limit is exceeded.
*/
- if (rcu_fanout_leaf < RCU_FANOUT_LEAF ||
+ if (rcu_fanout_leaf < 2 ||
rcu_fanout_leaf > sizeof(unsigned long) * 8) {
rcu_fanout_leaf = RCU_FANOUT_LEAF;
WARN_ON(1);
@@ -4239,10 +4238,13 @@ static void __init rcu_init_geometry(void)
/*
* The tree must be able to accommodate the configured number of CPUs.
- * If this limit is exceeded than we have a serious problem elsewhere.
+ * If this limit is exceeded, fall back to the compile-time values.
*/
- if (nr_cpu_ids > rcu_capacity[RCU_NUM_LVLS - 1])
- panic("rcu_init_geometry: rcu_capacity[] is too small");
+ if (nr_cpu_ids > rcu_capacity[RCU_NUM_LVLS - 1]) {
+ rcu_fanout_leaf = RCU_FANOUT_LEAF;
+ WARN_ON(1);
+ return;
+ }
/* Calculate the number of levels in the tree. */
for (i = 0; nr_cpu_ids > rcu_capacity[i]; i++) {
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