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Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional

Started byAndy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
First post2015-07-25 18:10 +0200
Last post2015-07-25 18:40 +0200
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  Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-07-25 18:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> - 2015-07-25 18:40 +0200

#1192395 — Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional

FromAndy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Date2015-07-25 18:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [PATCH v4 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional
Message-ID<pQabn-YF-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:36:45PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> The modify_ldt syscall exposes a large attack surface and is
>> unnecessary for modern userspace.  Make it optional.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
>> ---
>>  arch/x86/Kconfig                   | 17 +++++++++++++++++
>>  arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h         |  2 ++
>>  arch/x86/include/asm/mmu_context.h | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++--------
>>  arch/x86/kernel/Makefile           |  3 ++-
>>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/perf_event.c   |  4 ++++
>>  arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c       |  2 ++
>>  arch/x86/kernel/step.c             |  2 ++
>>  kernel/sys_ni.c                    |  1 +
>>  8 files changed, 53 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> index b3a1a5d77d92..ede52be845db 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> @@ -1015,6 +1015,7 @@ config VM86
>>  config X86_16BIT
>>       bool "Enable support for 16-bit segments" if EXPERT
>>       default y
>> +     depends on MODIFY_LDT_SYSCALL
>>       ---help---
>>         This option is required by programs like Wine to run 16-bit
>>         protected mode legacy code on x86 processors.  Disabling
>> @@ -2053,6 +2054,22 @@ config CMDLINE_OVERRIDE
>>         This is used to work around broken boot loaders.  This should
>>         be set to 'N' under normal conditions.
>>
>> +config MODIFY_LDT_SYSCALL
>> +       bool "Enable the LDT (local descriptor table)" if EXPERT
>
>         bool "Enable modify_ldt() for per-process Local Descriptor Table"
>
> is how I'd call it.

Okay with me.

>
>> +       default y
>
> Is that "default y" going to turn into a "default n" after a grace
> period?

Let's see how Willy's default-off sysctl plays out.  In the long run,
maybe we'll have it compiled in but runtime-disabled by default.
There's a big community of users who *really* like using Wine :)

--Andy
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#1192405

FromWilly Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Date2015-07-25 18:40 +0200
Message-ID<pQaEq-1xN-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1192395
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 09:03:54AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> > Is that "default y" going to turn into a "default n" after a grace
> > period?
> 
> Let's see how Willy's default-off sysctl plays out.  In the long run,
> maybe we'll have it compiled in but runtime-disabled by default.

That's the purpose at least at the beginning.

> There's a big community of users who *really* like using Wine :)

If distro vendors are willing to document a sysctl setting in order
to be able to use Wine in exchange for better security, I'm sure most
users will still prefer to stay safe.

Willy

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