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| Started by | SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net> |
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| First post | 2015-07-07 18:20 +0200 |
| Last post | 2015-07-09 01:50 +0200 |
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Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net> - 2015-07-07 18:20 +0200
Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 01:50 +0200
Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net> - 2015-07-08 15:50 +0200
Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 01:50 +0200
| From | SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 18:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body |
| Message-ID | <pJDLb-7RF-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
> I can't remember ever changing or explicitly preserving the commit date. > I don't think I care enough. Would any more software developers and maintainers like to share their experiences around such details? When do commit timestamps become relevant as a documentation item for contribution authorship? > Remembering the author separately from the committer is something > git does by design anyway. Do you usually just reuse a procedure from a well-known command for which a description is provided like the following? http://git-scm.com/docs/git-am '… "From: " and "Subject: " lines starting the body override the respective commit author name and title values taken from the headers. …' Will further fields be eventually mentioned there? Regards, Markus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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| From | Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-08 01:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body |
| Message-ID | <pJKMG-3Fu-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1178697 |
Hi Markus, On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:15 AM, SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> I can't remember ever changing or explicitly preserving the commit date. >> I don't think I care enough. > > Would any more software developers and maintainers like to share > their experiences around such details? > > When do commit timestamps become relevant as a documentation item > for contribution authorship? They are never relevant. "When" a commit happened is never relevant except in relation to other things, at which point the actual date and time is almost completely irrelevant. Just submit your patches using git-format-patch or git-send-email and friends. There's a file in the documentation directory of the kernel tree describing submitting patches and email client setup. Read them both, do what they say without anything extra. >> Remembering the author separately from the committer is something >> git does by design anyway. > > Do you usually just reuse a procedure from a well-known command > for which a description is provided like the following? > http://git-scm.com/docs/git-am > '… > "From: " and "Subject: " lines starting the body override > the respective commit author name and title values > taken from the headers. > …' > > Will further fields be eventually mentioned there? Why? Just do what is described in SubmittingPatches. Your attempts to "improve" on the system are unnecessary and annoying people. The instructions there are the recommended way to do things for a reason. Thanks, -- Julian Calaby Email: julian.calaby@gmail.com Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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| From | SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-08 15:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pJXTA-3mF-21@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1179164 |
> Is there truly no way to simplify that process? I see some software development possibilities which could improve the communication with high volume mailing lists. > You should be sending the patches directly with SMTP using git-send-email, This tool is also fine for the publishing of a lot of patches. > if you're not, then you're making things overly complicated for yourself. But I prefer a graphical user interface for my mail handling so far. > Having a feature doesn't mean that it should be used. Does any of the "questionable functionality" get occasionally overlooked a bit too often? Regards, Markus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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| From | Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-09 01:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body |
| Message-ID | <pK7ge-183-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1179845 |
Hi Markus, On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:46 PM, SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> Is there truly no way to simplify that process? > > I see some software development possibilities which could improve > the communication with high volume mailing lists. You shouldn't need any software development, most people's processes are: 1. Make changes 2. git add <files> 3. git commit 4. Repeat 1-3 for all changes they want to make 5. git-format-patch 6. git-send-email through some SMTP server to the list and appropriate other people From what I've read, you appear to have some semi-automatic tool for steps 1 through 4. I'd strongly recommend changing your patch submission process to use git-format-patch and git-send-email. If Sourceforge's email system doesn't let you send emails with SMTP directly, then you might want to try sending emails through your ISP's mail server. Maintainers use a very similar process, however they collect and review patches in some personal repository in addition to making changes and committing them. Tools like patchwork are simply fancy methods of accumulating patches into git trees. Most people are using git-format-patch and git-send-email, possibly with some scripting around them, to format and send patches. >> You should be sending the patches directly with SMTP using git-send-email, > > This tool is also fine for the publishing of a lot of patches. git-send-email or some other tool? >> if you're not, then you're making things overly complicated for yourself. > > But I prefer a graphical user interface for my mail handling so far. I send my patches using git-send-email through gmail's servers then deal with literally everything else through gmail's web interface or Android app. Using git-send-email doesn't mean you can't use a graphical mail interface. I used to send patches through a carefully configured instance of Thunderbird, however this required too many steps and it loved to mangle patches in ways that annoyed people. >> Having a feature doesn't mean that it should be used. > > Does any of the "questionable functionality" get occasionally overlooked > a bit too often? It's not "questionable functionality", it's functionality we don't see a need for. If I wanted to, I could insert a patch at any point in the history of Linux in my own repository, however any attempt to push that upstream would cause enormous amounts of pain and annoyance, to everyone who attempted to deal with it, so I don't. Thanks, -- Julian Calaby Email: julian.calaby@gmail.com Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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