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Re: [RFC][PATCH] fs: optimize inotify/fsnotify code for unwatched files

Started byDave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
First post2015-06-20 20:10 +0200
Last post2015-06-21 03:40 +0200
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  Re: [RFC][PATCH] fs: optimize inotify/fsnotify code for unwatched  files Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net> - 2015-06-20 20:10 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH] fs: optimize inotify/fsnotify code for unwatched  files "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2015-06-21 03:40 +0200

#1169419 — Re: [RFC][PATCH] fs: optimize inotify/fsnotify code for unwatched files

FromDave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
Date2015-06-20 20:10 +0200
SubjectRe: [RFC][PATCH] fs: optimize inotify/fsnotify code for unwatched files
Message-ID<pDvnk-5P7-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
On 06/19/2015 07:21 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> > > What is so expensive in it? Just the memory barrier in it?
>> > 
>> > The profiling doesn't hit on the mfence directly, but I assume that the
>> > overhead is coming from there.  The "mov    0x8(%rdi),%rcx" is identical
>> > before and after the barrier, but it appears much more expensive
>> > _after_.  That makes no sense unless the barrier is the thing causing it.
> OK, one thing to try is to simply delete the memory barrier.  The
> resulting code will be unsafe, but will probably run well enough to
> get benchmark results.  If it is the memory barrier, you should of
> course get increased throughput.

So I took the smp_mb() out of __srcu_read_lock().  The benchmark didn't
improve at all.  Looking at the profile, all of the overhead had just
shifted to __srcu_read_unlock() and its memory barrier!  Removing the
barrier in __srcu_read_unlock() got essentially the same gains out of
the benchmark as the original patch in this thread that just avoids RCU.

I think that's fairly conclusive that the source of the overhead is,
indeed, the memory barriers.

Although I said this test was single threaded, I also had another
thought.  The benchmark is single-threaded, but 'perf' is sitting doing
profiling and who knows what else on the other core, and the profiling
NMIs are certainly writing plenty of data to memory.  So, there might be
plenty of work for that smp_mb()/mfence to do _despite_ the benchmark
itself being single threaded.
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From"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date2015-06-21 03:40 +0200
Message-ID<pDCoN-7kM-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1169419
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:02:08AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 06/19/2015 07:21 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >>> > > What is so expensive in it? Just the memory barrier in it?
> >> > 
> >> > The profiling doesn't hit on the mfence directly, but I assume that the
> >> > overhead is coming from there.  The "mov    0x8(%rdi),%rcx" is identical
> >> > before and after the barrier, but it appears much more expensive
> >> > _after_.  That makes no sense unless the barrier is the thing causing it.
> > OK, one thing to try is to simply delete the memory barrier.  The
> > resulting code will be unsafe, but will probably run well enough to
> > get benchmark results.  If it is the memory barrier, you should of
> > course get increased throughput.
> 
> So I took the smp_mb() out of __srcu_read_lock().  The benchmark didn't
> improve at all.  Looking at the profile, all of the overhead had just
> shifted to __srcu_read_unlock() and its memory barrier!  Removing the
> barrier in __srcu_read_unlock() got essentially the same gains out of
> the benchmark as the original patch in this thread that just avoids RCU.
> 
> I think that's fairly conclusive that the source of the overhead is,
> indeed, the memory barriers.
> 
> Although I said this test was single threaded, I also had another
> thought.  The benchmark is single-threaded, but 'perf' is sitting doing
> profiling and who knows what else on the other core, and the profiling
> NMIs are certainly writing plenty of data to memory.  So, there might be
> plenty of work for that smp_mb()/mfence to do _despite_ the benchmark
> itself being single threaded.

Well, it is not hard to have an SRCU-like thing that doesn't have
read-side memory barriers, given that older versions of SRCU didn't
have them.  However, the price is increased latency for the analog to
synchronize_srcu().  I am guessing that this would not be a problem
for notification-group destruction, which is presumably rare.

That said, if empty *_fsnotify_mask is the common case or if the
overhead of processing notification overwhelms srcu_read_lock(),
your original patch seems a bit simpler.

							Thanx, Paul

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