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Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality

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On 09/12/2017 02:18 PM, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 12/09/17 18:21, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>> On 09/12/2017 12:09 PM, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> On 12/09/17 18:05, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>> On 09/12/2017 11:50 AM, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>> On 12/09/17 17:44, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/08/2017 10:48 AM, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>>>> As there is currently no user for sub-page grants or transient grants
>>>>>>> remove that functionality. This at once makes it possible to switch
>>>>>>> from grant v2 to grant v1 without restrictions, as there is no loss of
>>>>>>> functionality other than the limited frame number width related to
>>>>>>> the switch.
>>>>>> But isn't that ABI violation? v2 is expected to support this (XSAs
>>>>>> notwithstanding)
>>>>> No, I don't think so.
>>>>>
>>>>> The hypervisor still supports it, but the domU (or dom0) isn't required
>>>>> to make use of all the features IMHO. Or are you aware of any backend
>>>>> querying the grant version of a frontend and acting in another way if v2
>>>>> is detected?
>>>> I am not aware of any but that doesn't mean that they don't (or won't)
>>>> exist.
>>> But isn't the frontend the one which is defining what is granted in
>>> which way? How should there be an ABI breakage when the frontend just
>>> isn't using sub-page or transitive grants?
>> People may provide both front and backend drivers and frontends, knowing
>> that v2 is available, could decide to use those features.
> No, without the functions to use them it will be impossible.

I don't follow this. Which functions? The ones this patch is removing?

-boris

>  So it won't
> hit them on a random system by not working, but they would not be able
> to load such a driver (same as today without V2 support).
>
> In case they really want it they can send patches for support of subpage
> or transient grants. Like they would have to do for complete V2 support
> today.
>
>
> Juergen
>

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Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-09-12 17:50 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> - 2017-09-12 18:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> - 2017-09-12 18:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-09-12 18:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> - 2017-09-12 20:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-09-13 15:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> - 2017-09-13 15:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-09-13 16:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> - 2017-09-13 16:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-09-13 18:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> - 2017-09-14 10:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/4] xen: limit grant v2 interface to the v1 functionality Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2017-09-12 18:10 +0200

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