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Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag

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On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 01:54:45PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Ross Zwisler
> <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 09:12:35PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> >> On 9/5/17 5:35 PM, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> >> > The original intent of this series was to add a per-inode DAX flag to ext4
> >> > so that it would be consistent with XFS.  In my travels I found and fixed
> >> > several related issues in both ext4 and XFS.
> >>
> >> Hi Ross -
> >>
> >> hch had a lot of reasons to nuke the dax flag from orbit, and we just
> >> /disabled/ it in xfs due to its habit of crashing the kernel...
> >
> > Ah, sorry, I wasn't CC'd on those threads and missed them.  For any interested
> > bystanders:
> >
> > https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg57840.html
> > https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-xfs/msg09831.html
> > https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-xfs/msg10124.html
> >
> >> so a couple questions:
> >>
> >> 1) does this series pass hch's "test the per-inode DAX flag" fstest?
> >
> > Nope, it has the exact same problems as the XFS per-inode DAX flag.
> >
> >> 2) do we have an agreement that we need this flag at all, or is this
> >>    just a parity item because xfs has^whad a per-inode flag?
> >
> > It was for parity, and because it allows admins finer grained control over
> > their system.  Basically all things discussed in response to Lukas's original
> > patch in the first link above.
> 
> I think it's more than parity. When pmem is slower than page cache it
> is actively harmful to have DAX enabled globally for a filesystem. So,
> not only should we push for per-inode DAX control, we should also push
> to deprecate the mount option. I agree with Christoph that we should
> try to automatically and transparently enable DAX where it makes
> sense, but we also need a finer-grained mechanism than a mount flag to
> force the behavior one way or the other.

Yep, agreed.  I'll play with how to make this work after I've sorted out all
the data corruptions I've found. :)

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[PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
  [PATCH 9/9] ext4: add per-inode DAX flag Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
  [PATCH 2/9] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
  [PATCH 4/9] ext4: add ext4_should_use_dax() Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
  [PATCH 8/9] ext4: add sanity check for encryption + DAX Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
  [PATCH 5/9] ext4: ext4_change_inode_journal_flag error handling Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
  [PATCH 7/9] ext4: prevent data corruption with inline data + DAX Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 7/9] ext4: prevent data corruption with inline data + DAX Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca> - 2017-09-06 23:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 7/9] ext4: prevent data corruption with inline data + DAX Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-07 01:20 +0200
  [PATCH 1/9] ext4: remove duplicate extended attributes defs Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/9] ext4: remove duplicate extended attributes defs Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2017-09-06 09:30 +0200
  [PATCH 6/9] ext4: safely transition S_DAX on journaling changes Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 00:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 6/9] ext4: safely transition S_DAX on journaling changes Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2017-09-06 11:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 6/9] ext4: safely transition S_DAX on journaling changes Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 19:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com> - 2017-09-06 04:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-06 19:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> - 2017-09-07 23:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-07 23:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca> - 2017-09-07 23:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-08 00:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> - 2017-09-08 00:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2017-09-08 01:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> - 2017-09-08 11:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2017-09-08 17:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 0/9] add ext4 per-inode DAX flag Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> - 2017-09-08 00:20 +0200

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