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Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation

From Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation
Date 2017-09-05 02:40 +0200
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On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 01:42:48PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 10:30:32AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 06:38:52PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > And get tangled up with the workqueue annotation again, no thanks.
> > > Having the first few works see the thread setup isn't worth it.
> > > 
> > > And your work_id annotation had the same problem.
> > 
> > I keep asking you for an example because I really understand you.
> > 
> >    Fix my problematic example with your patches,
> > 
> >    or,
> > 
> >    Show me a problematic scenario with my original code, you expect.
> > 
> > Whatever, it would be helpful to understand you.
> 
> I _really_ don't understand what you're worried about. Is it the kthread
> create and workqueue init or the pool->lock that is released/acquired in
> process_one_work()?

s/in process_one_work()/in all worker code including setup code/

Original code was already designed to handle real dependencies well. But
you invalidated it _w/o_ any reason, that's why I don't agree with your
patches. Your patches only do avoiding the wq issue now we focus on.

Look at:

 worker thread                         another context
 -------------                         ---------------
                                       wait_for_completion()
       |
       |      (1)
       v
  +---------+
  | Work  A | (2)
  +---------+
       |
       |      (3)
       v
  +---------+
  | Work  B | (4)
  +---------+
       |
       |      (5)
       v
  +---------+
  | Work  C | (6)
  +---------+
       |
       v

We have to consider whole context of the worker to build dependencies
with a crosslock e.g. wait_for_commplete().

Only thing we have to care here is to make all works e.g. (2), (4) and
(6) independent, because workqueue does _concurrency control_. As I said
last year at the very beginning, for works not applied the control e.g.
max_active == 1, we don't need that isolation. I said, it's a future work.

It would have been much easier to communicate with each other if you
*tried* to understand my examples like now or you *tried* to give me one
example at least. You didn't even *try*. Only thing I want to ask you
for is to *try* to understand my opinions on conflicts.

Now, understand what I intended? Still unsufficient?

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Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-29 11:10 +0200
  [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: Untangle xhlock history  save/restore from task independence tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra <tipbot@zytor.com> - 2017-08-29 16:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <max.byungchul.park@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-29 20:50 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-08-30 04:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-08-30 09:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-30 11:00 +0200
        RE: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation "Byungchul Park" <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-08-30 11:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-30 11:20 +0200
            RE: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation "Byungchul Park" <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-08-30 11:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-30 11:20 +0200
            RE: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation "Byungchul Park" <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-08-30 11:30 +0200
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                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <max.byungchul.park@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 15:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-08-31 09:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-31 10:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-08-31 10:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-31 10:40 +0200
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                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-09-01 12:20 +0200
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                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-01 14:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <max.byungchul.park@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 16:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-01 18:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-09-04 03:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-09-04 04:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-04 13:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-09-05 02:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-05 09:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-05 09:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-09-05 11:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-05 11:40 +0200
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                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-09-06 02:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-09-05 13:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH 4/4] lockdep: Fix workqueue crossrelease annotation Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com> - 2017-09-05 13:30 +0200
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