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Re: [PATCH 2/2] of: Restrict DMA configuration

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On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
> On 14/08/17 21:08, Rob Herring wrote:
>> +linuxppc-dev
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>>> Moving DMA configuration to happen later at driver probe time had the
>>> unnoticed side-effect that we now perform DMA configuration for *every*
>>> device represented in DT, rather than only those explicitly created by
>>> the of_platform and PCI code.
>>>
>>> As Christoph points out, this is not really the best thing to do. Whilst
>>> there may well be other DMA-capable buses that can benefit from having
>>> their children automatically configured after the bridge has probed,
>>> there are also plenty of others like USB, MDIO, etc. that definitely do
>>> not support DMA and should not be indiscriminately processed.
>>>
>>> The good news is that DT already gives us the ammunition to do the right
>>> thing - anything lacking a "dma-ranges" property should be considered
>>> not to have a mapping of DMA address space from its children to its
>>> parent, thus anything for which of_dma_get_range() does not succeed does
>>> not need DMA configuration.
>>>
>>> The bad news is that strictly enforcing that would likely break just
>>> about every FDT platform out there, since most authors have either not
>>> considered the property at all or have mistakenly assumed that omitting
>>> "dma-ranges" is equivalent to including the empty property. Thus we have
>>> little choice but to special-case platform, AMBA and PCI devices so they
>>> continue to receive configuration unconditionally as before. At least
>>> anything new will have to get it right in future...
>>
>> By "anything new", you mean new buses, not new platforms, right?
>> What's a platform bus device today could be a different kernel bus
>> type tomorrow with no DT change. So this isn't really enforceable.
>
> Indeed, it would be virtually impossible to do anything on a
> per-platform basis, but I think per-bus is a workable compromise - if
> someone changes their hypothetical bus driver in a way that would affect
> deployed DTs that can't be updated, at worst they can still add their
> new bus type to the special case list at the same time.
>
>> I don't completely agree that omitting dma-ranges is wrong and that
>> new DTs have to have dma-ranges simply because there is much precedent
>> of DTs with dma-ranges omitted (just go look at PPC). If a bus has no
>> bus to cpu address translation nor size restrictions, then no
>> dma-ranges should be allowed.
>
> Sure, I agree that that genie is never going back in the bottle, but
> people seem to manage to get empty "ranges" right to differentiate
> between memory-mapped vs. non-memory-mapped buses, so it would be nice
> to encourage getting the other direction right as well.

Well, they get ranges right because they don't get an address
otherwise. The problem on dma-ranges is the bus we describe is the
slave side, not the master side. So a given bus may have a mixture of
DMA capable devices and non-DMA capable devices. If we're still
setting DMA masks on all the devices, what have we gained? Maybe we
could get stricter on PCI buses at least.

> For the immediate issue at hand, I guess the alternative plan of attack
> would be to stick a flag in struct bus_type for the bus drivers
> themselves to opt into generic DMA configuration. That at least keeps
> everything within the kernel (and come to think of it probably works
> neatly for modular bus types as well).

I'm fine with the change as is, it's really just the commit text I'm
commenting on.

Rob

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Re: [PATCH 2/2] of: Restrict DMA configuration Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2017-08-14 22:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 2/2] of: Restrict DMA configuration Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> - 2017-08-15 12:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/2] of: Restrict DMA configuration Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2017-08-15 16:30 +0200

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