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Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages

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On 08/03/2017 08:54 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 03-08-17 19:59:17, Wei Wang wrote:
>> This patch is a revert of 'commit bb01b64cfab7 ("mm/balloon_compaction.c:
>> enqueue zero page to balloon device")'
>>
>> Ballooned pages will be marked as MADV_DONTNEED by the hypervisor and
>> shouldn't be given to the host ksmd to scan.
> I find MADV_DONTNEED reference still quite confusing. What do you think
> about the following wording instead:
> "
> Zeroying ballon pages is rather time consuming, especially when a lot of
> pages are in flight. E.g. 7GB worth of ballooned memory takes 2.8s with
> __GFP_ZERO while it takes ~491ms without it. The original commit argued
> that zeroying will help ksmd to merge these pages on the host but this
> argument is assuming that the host actually marks balloon pages for ksm
> which is not universally true. So we pay performance penalty for
> something that even might not be used in the end which is wrong. The
> host can zero out pages on its own when there is a need.
> "

I think it looks good. Thanks.


>> Therefore, it is not
>> necessary to zero ballooned pages, which is very time consuming when
>> the page amount is large. The ongoing fast balloon tests show that the
>> time to balloon 7G pages is increased from ~491ms to 2.8 seconds with
>> __GFP_ZERO added. So, this patch removes the flag.
> The only reason why unconditional zeroying makes some sense is the
> data leak protection (guest doesn't want to leak potentially sensitive
> data to a malicious guest). I am not sure such a thread applies here
> though.


I think the unwashed contents left in the balloon pages (also free pages)
should be treated non-confidential - if the guest application has
confidential content in its memory, the application itself should zero that
before giving back that memory to the guest kernel.


Best,
Wei

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[PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com> - 2017-08-03 14:20 +0200
  Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2017-08-03 14:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-08-03 15:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com> - 2017-08-03 15:20 +0200
  Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> - 2017-08-07 10:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-08-07 11:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> - 2017-08-07 11:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm: don't zero ballooned pages Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com> - 2017-08-07 11:40 +0200

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