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Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending()

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On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:14:19PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 10:02:45PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Tue, 2017-08-01 at 11:31 +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > Looks like that's what's currently relied upon:
> > > 
> > >   /* Clearing is done after a TLB flush, which also provides a barrier. */
> > > 
> > > It also provides barrier semantics on arm/arm64. In reality, I suspect
> > > all archs have to provide some order between set_pte_at and flush_tlb_range
> > > which is sufficient to hold up clearing the flag. :/
> > 
> > Hrm... not explicitely.
> > 
> > Most archs (powerpc among them) have set_pte_at be just a dumb store,
> > so the only barrier it has is the surrounding PTL.
> > 
> > Now flush_tlb_range() I assume has some internal strong barriers but
> > none of that is well defined or documented at all, so I suspect all
> > bets are off.
> 
> Right.. but seeing how we're in fact relying on things here it might be
> time to go figure this out and document bits.
> 
> *sigh*, I suppose its going to be me doing this.. :-)


So on the related question; does on_each_cpu() provide a full smp_mb(),
I think we can answer: yes.

on_each_cpu() does IPIs to all _other_ CPUs, and those IPIs are using
llist_add() which is cmpxchg() which implies smp_mb().

After that it runs the local function.

So we can see on_each_cpu() as doing a smp_mb() before running @func.


xtensa - it uses on_each_cpu() for TLB invalidates.

x86 - we use either on_each_cpu() (flush_tlb_all(),
flush_tlb_kernel_range()) or we use flush_tlb_mm_range() which does an
atomic_inc_return() at the very start. Not to mention that actually
flushing TLBs itself is a barrier. Arguably flush_tlb_mm_range() should
first do _others* and then self, because others will use
smp_call_function_many() and see above.

(TODO look into paravirt)

Tile - does mb() in flush_remote()

sparc32-smp !?

sparc64 -- nope, no-op functions, TLB flushes are contained inside the PTL.

sh - yes, per smp_call_function

s390 - has atomics when it flushes. ptep_modify_prot_start() can set
mm->flush_mm = 1, at which point flush_tlb_range() will actually do
something, in that case there will be a smp_mb as per the atomics.
Otherwise the TLB invalidate is contained inside the PTL.

powerpc - radix - PTESYNC
	  hash - flush inside PTL


parisc - has all PTE and TLB operations serialized using a global lock

nm10300 - *ugh* but yes, smp_call_function() for remote CPUs

mips - smp_call_function for remote CPUs

metag - mmio write

m32r - doesn't seem to have smp_mb()

ia64 - smp_call_function_*()

hexagon - HVM trap, no smp_mb()

blackfin - nommu

arm - dsb ish

arm64  - dsb ish

arc - no barrier

alpha - no barrier


Now the architectures that do not have a barrier, like alpha, arc,
metag, the  PTL spin_unlock has a smp_mb, however I don't think that is
enough, because then the flush_tlb_range() might still be pending. That
said, these architectures probably don't have transparant huge pages so
it doesn't matter.


Still this is all rather unsatisfactory. Either we should define
flush_tlb*() to imply a barrier when its not a no-op (sparc64/ppc-hash)
or simply make clear_tlb_flush_pending() an smp_store_release().

I prefer the latter option.

Opinions?

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Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> - 2017-08-01 12:40 +0200
  Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-01 14:20 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-01 18:40 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-01 18:50 +0200
        Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-02 01:00 +0200
          Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2017-08-02 04:10 +0200
            Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> - 2017-08-02 10:20 +0200
              Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> - 2017-08-02 10:50 +0200
                Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-02 11:00 +0200
                Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> - 2017-08-02 11:10 +0200
                Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2017-08-03 04:40 +0200
              Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-02 10:50 +0200
                Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> - 2017-08-02 11:10 +0200
                Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-02 11:20 +0200
            Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-02 10:20 +0200
              Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2017-08-02 17:50 +0200
                Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-08-02 17:50 +0200
        Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2017-08-02 03:10 +0200
      Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> - 2017-08-01 18:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2017-08-02 04:00 +0200
  Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Rework {set,clear,mm}_tlb_flush_pending() Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> - 2017-08-01 15:40 +0200

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