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Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better performance"

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On Wed, 2017-07-26 at 19:08 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 09:37:15PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 2017年07月26日 21:18, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 2017年07月26日 20:57, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 04:03:17PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > This reverts commit 809ecb9bca6a9424ccd392d67e368160f8b76c92. Since it
> > > > > was reported to break vhost_net. We want to cache used event and use
> > > > > it to check for notification. We try to valid cached used event by
> > > > > checking whether or not it was ahead of new, but this is not correct
> > > > > all the time, it could be stale and there's no way to know about this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Jason Wang<jasowang@redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > > Could you supply a bit more data here please?  How does it get stale?
> > > > What does guest need to do to make it stale?  This will be helpful if
> > > > anyone wants to bring it back, or if we want to extend the protocol.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The problem we don't know whether or not guest has published a new used
> > > event. The check vring_need_event(vq->last_used_event, new + vq->num,
> > > new) is not sufficient to check for this.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > 
> > More notes, the previous assumption is that we don't move used event back,
> > but this could happen in fact if idx is wrapper around.
> 
> You mean if the 16 bit index wraps around after 64K entries.
> Makes sense.
> 
> > Will repost and add
> > this into commit log.
> > 
> > Thanks

Hi,

I am just curious but I have got a question:
AFAIU, if you wanted to keep the caching mechanism alive in the code base,
the following two changes could clear off the issue, or not?:
(1) Always fetch the latest event value from guest when signalled_used event is
invalid, which includes last_used_idx wraps-around case. Otherwise we might need
changes which would complicate too much the logic to properly decide whether or
not to skip signalling in the next vhost_notify round.
(2) On top of that, split the signal-postponing logic to three cases like:
* if the interval of vq.num is [2^16, UINT_MAX]:
any cached event is in should-postpone-signalling interval, so paradoxically
must always do signalling.
* else if the interval of vq.num is [2^15, 2^16):
the logic in the original patch (809ecb9bca6a9) suffices
* else (= less than 2^15) (optional):
checking only (vring_need_event(vq->last_used_event, new + vq->num, new)
would suffice.

Am I missing something, or is this irrelevant?
I would appreciate if you could elaborate a bit more how the situation where
event idx wraps around and moves back would make trouble.

Thanks.

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[PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better performance" Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> - 2017-07-26 10:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better  performance" Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> - 2017-07-26 13:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better  performance" Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> - 2017-07-26 14:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better  performance" "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2017-07-26 15:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better  performance" Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> - 2017-07-26 15:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better  performance" Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> - 2017-07-26 15:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better  performance" "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2017-07-26 18:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better  performance" "K. Den" <den@klaipeden.com> - 2017-07-30 08:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better  performance" "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2017-07-26 17:30 +0200

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