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Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reset low limit during memcg offlining

From Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reset low limit during memcg offlining
Date 2017-07-26 14:10 +0200
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Hello, Vladimir.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:30:17AM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > As I understand, css_reset() callback is intended to _completely_ disable all
> > limits, as if there were no cgroup at all.
> 
> But that's exactly what cgroup offline is: deletion of a cgroup as if it
> never existed. The fact that we leave the zombie dangling until all
> pages charged to the cgroup are gone is an implementation detail. IIRC
> we would "reparent" those charges and delete the mem_cgroup right away
> if it were not inherently racy.

That may be true for memcg but not in general.  Think about writeback
IOs servicing dirty pages of a removed cgroup.  Removing a cgroup
shouldn't grant it more resources than when it was alive and changing
the membership to the parent will break that.  For memcg, they seem
the same just because no new major consumption can be generated after
removal.

> The user can't tweak limits of an offline cgroup, because the cgroup
> directory no longer exist. So IMHO resetting all limits is reasonable.
> If you want to keep the cgroup limits effective, you shouldn't have
> deleted it in the first place, I suppose.

I don't think that's the direction we wanna go.  Granting more
resources on removal is surprising.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reset low limit during memcg offlining Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com> - 2017-07-25 14:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reset low limit during memcg offlining Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-07-25 14:50 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reset low limit during memcg offlining Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com> - 2017-07-26 10:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reset low limit during memcg offlining Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2017-07-26 14:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/2] cgroup: revert fa06235b8eb0 ("cgroup: reset css on  destruction") Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2017-07-27 16:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcg: reset memory.low during memcg offlining Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> - 2017-07-27 16:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/2] cgroup: revert fa06235b8eb0 ("cgroup: reset css on  destruction") Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> - 2017-07-27 16:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcg: reset memory.low during memcg offlining Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2017-07-27 16:50 +0200

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