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Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator

From Stephan Müller <smueller@chronox.de>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator
Date 2017-07-19 08:30 +0200
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Am Dienstag, 18. Juli 2017, 23:08:16 CEST schrieb Theodore Ts'o:

Hi Theodore,
> 
> I've been trying to take the best features and suggestions from your
> proposal and integrating them into /dev/random already.  Things that
> I've chosen not take is basically because I disbelieve that the Jitter
> RNG is valid.  And that's mostly becuase I trust Peter Anvin (who has
> access to Intel chip architects, who has expressed unease) more than
> you.  (No hard feelings).

I am unsure why you always point to the Jitter RNG. This is one noise source 
to keep or to remove -- at least it provides more data during early boot than 
any other noise source we currently have.

In the email [1] I have expressed the core concerns I see -- none of them 
address the need to keep the Jitter RNG as one noise source. To address those, 
a very deep dive into random.c needs to be made.

Such deep dive has the potential to be disruptive. Therefore, doesn't it make 
more sense to have such conceptual changes rather covered in a separate 
implementation?

[1] https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-crypto/msg26316.html

Ciao
Stephan

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Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Müller <smueller@chronox.de> - 2017-07-18 16:40 +0200
  Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2017-07-18 23:10 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 03:10 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2017-07-19 04:00 +0200
        Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Müller <smueller@chronox.de> - 2017-07-19 08:30 +0200
        Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-07-30 12:50 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com> - 2017-07-23 20:10 +0200
        Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2017-07-23 23:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Müller <smueller@chronox.de> - 2017-07-19 08:30 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2017-07-19 08:40 +0200
      Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2017-07-19 19:30 +0200
        Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Müller <smueller@chronox.de> - 2017-07-20 21:10 +0200
          Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> - 2017-07-21 05:10 +0200
            Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Müller <smueller@chronox.de> - 2017-07-21 11:00 +0200
              Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Müller <smueller@chronox.de> - 2017-07-21 17:20 +0200
              Re: [RFC PATCH v12 3/4] Linux Random Number Generator Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-07-21 17:20 +0200

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