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Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor

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Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> writes:
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>> Why do you think it's a bug ?
>
> SDM defines a different behavior and hardware doesn't do that either.
> There are only two reasons for a VMFUNC VM exit from EPTP switching:
>
>  1) ECX > 0
>  2) EPTP would cause VM entry to fail if in VMCS.EPT_POINTER
>
> KVM can fail for other reasons because of its bugs, but that should be
> notified to the guest in another way.  Rebooting the guest is kind of
> acceptable in that case.
>
>>                               The eptp switching function really didn't
>> succeed as far as our emulation goes when kvm_mmu_reload() fails.
>> And as such, the generic vmexit failure event should be a vmfunc vmexit.
>
> I interpret it as two separate events -- at first, the vmfunc succeeds
> and when it later tries to access memory through the new EPTP (valid,
> but not pointing into backed memory), it results in a EPT_MISCONFIG VM
> exit.
>
>> We cannot strictly follow the spec here, the spec doesn't even mention a way
>> to emulate eptp switching.  If setting up the switching succeeded and the
>> new root pointer is invalid or whatever, I really don't care what happens
>> next but this is not the case. We fail to get a new root pointer and without
>> that, we can't even make a switch!
>
> We just make it behave exactly how the spec says that it behaves.  We do
> have a value (we read 'address') to put into VMCS.EPT_POINTER, which is
> all we need for the emulation.
> The function doesn't dereference that pointer, it just looks at its
> value to decide whether it is valid or not.  (btw. we should check that
> properly, because we cannot depend on VM entry failure pass-through like
> the normal case.)
>
> The dereference done in kvm_mmu_reload() should happen after EPTP
> switching finishes, because the spec doesn't mention a VM exit for other
> reason than invalid EPT_POINTER value.
>
>>> just keep the original bug -- we want to eventually fix it and it's no
>>> worse till then.
>> 
>> Anyway, can you please confirm again what is the behavior that you
>> are expecting if kvm_mmu_reload fails ? This would be a rarely used
>> branch and I am actually fine diverging from what I think is right if
>> I can get the reviewers to agree on a common thing.
>
> kvm_mmu_reload() fails when mmu_check_root() is false, which means that
> the pointed physical address is not backed.  We've hit this corner-case
> in the past -- Jim said that the chipset returns all 1s if a read is not
> claimed.
>
> So in theory, KVM should not fail kvm_mmu_reload(), but behave as if the
> pointer pointed to a memory of all 1s, which would likely result in
> EPT_MISCONFIG when the guest does a memory access.

As much as I would like to disagree with you, I have already spent way more
time on this then I want. Please let's just leave it here, then ? The mmu unload
will make sure there's an invalid root hpa and whatever happens next, happens.

> It is a mishandled corner case, but turning it into VM exit would only
> confuse an OS that receives the impossible VM exit and potentially
> confuse reader of the KVM logic.
>
> I think that not using kvm_mmu_reload() directly in EPTP switching is
> best.  The bug is not really something we care about.

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[PATCH v4 0/3] Expose VMFUNC to the nested hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-10 23:00 +0200
  [PATCH v4 2/3] KVM: nVMX: Enable VMFUNC for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-10 23:00 +0200
  [PATCH v4 1/3] KVM: vmx: Enable VMFUNCs Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-10 23:00 +0200
  [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-10 23:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 10:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 10:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 16:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 20:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 21:20 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 21:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 20:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 20:30 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 21:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 22:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 22:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 22:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 22:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 23:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-12 15:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-12 20:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-12 21:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-17 20:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com> - 2017-07-11 20:30 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 20:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 21:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 21:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 22:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-11 22:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> - 2017-07-12 15:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-12 20:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1  hypervisor David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> - 2017-07-13 17:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] KVM: nVMX: Emulate EPTP switching for the L1 hypervisor Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com> - 2017-07-13 19:10 +0200

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