Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS

From	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS
Date	2017-03-28 12:50 +0200
Message-ID	<tpWRj-6j4-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References	(4 earlier) <tn7gd-6yN-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <tnlCx-7XR-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <tnqsz-2K1-39@gated-at.bofh.it> <tnxu2-7Db-31@gated-at.bofh.it> <tny6K-7WE-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
Organization	linux.* mail to news gateway

Show all headers | View raw

Hi Christoffer,

(CC: Leif and Achin who know more about how UEFI fits into this picture)

On 21/03/17 19:39, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 07:11:44PM +0000, James Morse wrote:
>> On 21/03/17 11:34, Christoffer Dall wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 02:32:29PM +0800, gengdongjiu wrote:
>>>> On 2017/3/20 23:08, James Morse wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 20/03/17 07:55, Dongjiu Geng wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In the RAS implementation, hardware pass the virtual SEI
>>>>>>>>> syndrome information through the VSESR_EL2, so set the virtual
>>>>>>>>> SEI syndrome using physical SEI syndrome el2_elr to pass to
>>>>>>>>> the guest OS
>>>>>
>>>>> How does this work with firmware first?
>>>>
>>>> I explained it in previous mail about the work flow.
>>>
>>> When delivering and reporting SEIs to the VM, should this happen
>>> directly to the OS running in the VM, or to the guest firmware (e.g.
>>> UEFI) running in the VM as well?
>>
>> 'firmware first' is the ACPI specs name for x86's BIOS or management-mode
>> handling the error. On arm64 we have multiple things called firmware, so the
>> name might be more confusing than helpful.
>>
>> As far as I understand it, firmware here refers to the secure-world and EL3.
>> Something like ATF can use SCR_EL3.EA to claim SErrors and external aborts,
>> routing them to EL3 where secure platform specific firmware generates CPER records.
>> For a guest, Qemu takes the role of this EL3-firmware.
>>
> Thanks for the clarification.  So UEFI in the VM would not be involved
> in this at all?

On the host, part of UEFI is involved to generate the CPER records.
In a guest?, I don't know.
Qemu could generate the records, or drive some other component to do it.

Leif and Achin are the people with the UEFI/bigger picture.


> My confusion here comes from not thinking about QEMU or KVM as firmware,
> but as the machine, so it would be sort of like the functionality is
> baked into hardware rather than firmware.
> 
> Note that to the VM, the environment will look like hardware without EL3
> and without a secure world, so any software assuming there's something
> 'hidden' behind the available non-secure modes must not decide to
> disable features if discovering the lack of a secure world.


Thanks,

James

Back to linux.kernel | Previous | Next — Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> - 2017-03-28 12:50 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org> - 2017-03-28 13:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> - 2017-03-28 13:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> - 2017-03-28 15:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS gengdongjiu <gengdongjiu@huawei.com> - 2017-03-28 14:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS James Morse <james.morse@arm.com> - 2017-03-28 15:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS gengdongjiu <gengdongjiu@huawei.com> - 2017-03-29 11:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> - 2017-03-29 14:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2017-03-29 15:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> - 2017-03-29 15:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Punit Agrawal <punit.agrawal@arm.com> - 2017-03-29 16:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> - 2017-03-29 16:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS gengdongjiu <gengdongjiu@huawei.com> - 2017-04-06 14:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> - 2017-04-06 21:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS gengdongjiu <gengdongjiu@huawei.com> - 2017-04-07 05:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> - 2017-04-07 11:30 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS gengdongjiu <gengdj.1984@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 16:40 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org> - 2017-03-29 16:50 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> - 2017-03-29 17:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org> - 2017-03-29 19:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS gengdongjiu <gengdongjiu@huawei.com> - 2017-03-30 03:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org> - 2017-03-28 14:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] kvm: pass the virtual SEI syndrome to guest OS Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org> - 2017-03-28 15:50 +0200

csiph-web