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Re: [RFC v5 8/9] sched/deadline: base GRUB reclaiming on the inactive utilization

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On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:53:35 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 04:56:51PM +0200, Luca Abeni wrote:
> 
> > > > +u64 grub_reclaim(u64 delta, struct rq *rq, u64 u)
> > > >  {
> > > > +	u64 u_act;
> > > > +
> > > > +	if (rq->dl.this_bw - rq->dl.running_bw > (1 << 20) - u)
> > > > +		u_act = u;
> > > > +	else
> > > > +		u_act = (1 << 20) - rq->dl.this_bw +
> > > > rq->dl.running_bw; +
> > > > +	return (delta * u_act) >> 20;    
> > > 
> > > But that's not what is done here I think, something like this
> > > instead:
> > > 
> > > 	Uinact = Utot - Uact
> > > 
> > > 		-t_u dt ; Uinact > (1 - t_u)
> > > 	dq = {
> > > 		-(1 - Uinact) dt
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And nowhere do we have an explanation for that.  
> > 
> > Sorry about this confusion... The accounting should be
> > 	dq = -(1 - Uinact)dt
> > but if (1 - Uinact) is too large (larger than the task's
> > utilization) then we use the task's utilization instead (otherwise,
> > we end up reclaiming other runqueues' time). I realized that this
> > check was needed after writing the comments, and I forgot to update
> > the comments when I fixed the code :(
> >   
> > > Now, I suspect we can write that like: dq = -max{ t_u, (1 -
> > > Uinact) } dt, which would suggest this is a sanity check on Utot,
> > > which I suspect can be over 1. Is this what is happening?  
> > 
> > Right... I'll fix the code and comments according to your
> > suggestion.  
> 
> But doesn't that suggest there is now another corner case where we
> 'always' select t_u because of Utot overload?
> 
> My intuition suggests we'd reclaim insufficient time in that case, but
> I've not thought much about it.

Well, setting U_act = u_i (task utilization) means that task i is
reclaiming the whole CPU time (then, the next patch will make sure that
deadline tasks cannot consume 100% of the CPU time on a single CPU).



> I feel we want a few words explaining the trade-offs made here and the
> corner cases explored.
> 
> Does that make sense?

I think it is a good idea; maybe at the OSPM summit we can work on
finding the correct wording for these comments?


			Thanks,
				Luca

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[RFC v5 0/9] CPU reclaiming for SCHED_DEADLINE  luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-23 21:00 +0100
  [RFC v5 8/9] sched/deadline: base GRUB reclaiming on the inactive utilization luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-23 21:00 +0100
    Re: [RFC v5 8/9] sched/deadline: base GRUB reclaiming on the  inactive utilization Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-03-27 16:30 +0200
      Re: [RFC v5 8/9] sched/deadline: base GRUB reclaiming on the  inactive utilization Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-27 17:00 +0200
        Re: [RFC v5 8/9] sched/deadline: base GRUB reclaiming on the  inactive utilization Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-03-27 18:20 +0200
          Re: [RFC v5 8/9] sched/deadline: base GRUB reclaiming on the  inactive utilization luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-27 19:10 +0200
  [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active utilization luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-23 21:00 +0100
    Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-03-24 14:30 +0100
    Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2017-03-24 14:30 +0100
      Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-24 22:50 +0100
        Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2017-03-25 03:40 +0100
          Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-27 10:30 +0200
            Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active utilization Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com> - 2017-03-27 11:00 +0200
        Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com> - 2017-03-27 09:20 +0200
          Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-27 10:10 +0200
            Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com> - 2017-03-27 10:50 +0200
        Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-27 09:40 +0200
    Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active utilization Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org> - 2017-03-26 19:40 +0200
      Re: [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of active  utilization luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-26 23:10 +0200
  [RFC v5 6/9] sched/deadline: make GRUB a task's flag luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-23 21:00 +0100
  [RFC v5 7/9] sched/deadline: track the "total rq utilization" too luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-23 21:00 +0100
  [RFC v5 4/9] sched/deadline: implement GRUB accounting luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-23 21:00 +0100
  [RFC v5 3/9] sched/deadline: fix the update of the total -deadline utilization luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> - 2017-03-23 21:00 +0100

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