Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > linux.kernel > #1587330

Re: [PATCH] docs: Make CodingStyle and SubmittingPatches symlinks

Path csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod
From Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] docs: Make CodingStyle and SubmittingPatches symlinks
Date Fri, 24 Feb 2017 09:00:01 +0100
Message-ID <teiXf-5sB-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References <sYcVP-70a-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <sZg1k-4RX-21@gated-at.bofh.it> <sZgkG-5dS-25@gated-at.bofh.it> <t2Kcy-5gI-11@gated-at.bofh.it> <taSZk-75C-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
Dkim-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ffwll.ch; s=google; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=X2I9aVTDvoAoxva/8vFxUSFwEUf1PR2p9S91Qg63zdU=; b=lukaru99YX67Q+IPo5UYmBV78fnqv5BN6bYbLsnoB7qVqQii679g+GMVvRbkKon58a w8BdkUIEvm313tMw8MdPSYOj2C2rtn9tHHaqRUqxoIqtL6YWB2DWjhedL8RQXimxPFWO 6mhjJ1xfCf/aooDRC//pmNsc8bCngxrsWPGX4=
X-Google-Dkim-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=X2I9aVTDvoAoxva/8vFxUSFwEUf1PR2p9S91Qg63zdU=; b=L3e7ieQpxXESylzp4ef3Ouu77IcTvPEfgxPVvi8crnDmEeLv/3jH7/uh3MDT96fYkC fignHpxDc0SFRYvyKGCa4yJ8gzGp+ABVIfQ3RmRldF2JV6J2GSS0M3HvUxHntKlxRKA2 R3bqicA9QvfMDDRK9298gooAIsaX2Yv1fd1n7+Ecptm4GZbs/yYHkn9xCnuUB1Xos8oZ FPkSIH32+gtmk/agDqcdWgCDE55IaPUVtUp6uXRh3JyyMf2ksK5s+Ca0DwPs8vs8WY/y UlDZ4CrTWqe9lGzZCaAo+ehbfrYqijgyqN4ak5wWTD0PzW1A7z01r8QRaiydP8KNsl8Z DTjg==
X-Gm-Message-State AMke39lDRdgb5B0G8hDYTGIu4H0d1xOHdifdQnC44kxXJC50XWI4VzbAp5/Hafa2HgukYQ==
X-Received by 10.223.178.87 with SMTP id y23mr1088924wra.91.1487922612020; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:50:12 -0800 (PST)
Mail-Followup-To Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition inline
X-Operating-System Linux phenom 4.8.0-1-amd64
User-Agent NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2)
Sender robomod@news.nic.it
List-ID <linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org>
X-Mailing-List linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Approved robomod@news.nic.it
Lines 43
Organization linux.* mail to news gateway
X-Original-Cc Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
X-Original-Date Fri, 24 Feb 2017 08:50:02 +0100
X-Original-Message-ID <20170224075002.wfjmlsv7bokrlmk6@phenom.ffwll.local>
X-Original-References <4a5d167c038ac98c51bd034855f1dca9a3e0f6fb.1484086131.git.joe@perches.com> <20170113124135.7873b9c7@lwn.net> <1484337804.3065.36.camel@perches.com> <20170123083458.25b35a4d@vento.lan> <20170214143438.668a7c5b@lwn.net>
X-Original-Sender linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
Xref csiph.com linux.kernel:1587330

Show key headers only | View raw


On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 02:34:38PM -0700, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 08:34:58 -0200
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com> wrote:
> 
> > The main difference between a "pointer file" and a symlink is that the
> > first indicates a temporary solution, teaching people that the
> > file got renamed and were it is located now. As such, we can remove
> > those "pointer files" on some future Kernel releases without much concern.
> > 
> > A symlink indicates a more permanent situation, as people will keep
> > using the symlinked files as before. That means that any attempt to
> > remove those in the future will generate concerns.
> > 
> > So, I'm in favor of using the "pointer files" instead, as it
> > gives us an easier way to get rid of them when we find convenient.
> 
> So you've all long since forgotten this discussion, I'm sure, but I've
> been pondering it on and off for quite a while.
> 
> The movement of some of the more well-known documents has been a concern
> of mine from the beginning; that is why I delayed those changes for
> a cycle and raised the issue at a number of conferences, culminating in
> the kernel summit in November.  I got a strong sense of consensus that we
> should go ahead and move the files.
> 
> As Mauro says, symlinks are forever; they say we'll never really succeed
> in rationalizing the structure of Documentation/.  But we don't nail down
> the location of any other files in the kernel source tree in this manner,
> and my own feeling is that we shouldn't do that here either.  The kernel
> source tree is not an API.  So my thinking at the moment is that we should
> retain the current "pointer files" in the vague hope that, someday, we
> won't need them anymore.

It's a tricky balance, but I think your stance is reasonable and seems to
reflect overall consensus (which might chance, we'll see).

+1 from my side.

Thanks, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

Back to linux.kernel | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Re: [PATCH] docs: Make CodingStyle and SubmittingPatches symlinks Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> - 2017-02-14 22:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH] docs: Make CodingStyle and SubmittingPatches symlinks Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> - 2017-02-14 22:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH] docs: Make CodingStyle and SubmittingPatches symlinks Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> - 2017-02-24 09:00 +0100

csiph-web