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Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch

From Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch
Date 2017-02-13 11:30 +0100
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Hi Pavel,

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:54:20AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > Take a look at the wikipedia. If you do "one at a time" at 100Hz, you
> > > can claim it is time-domain multiplex. But we are plain switching the
> > > cameras. It takes second (or so) to setup the pipeline.
> > > 
> > > This is not multiplex.
> > 
> > The functionality is still the same, isn't it? Does it change what it is if
> > the frequency might be 100 Hz or 0,01 Hz?
> 
> Well. In your living your you can have a switch, which is switch at
> much less than 0.01Hz. You can also have a dimmer, which is a PWM,
> which is switch at 100Hz or so. So yes, I'd say switch and mux are
> different things.

Light switches are mostly on/off switches. It'd be interesting to have a
light switch that you could use to light either of the light bulbs in a room
but not to switch both of them on at the same time. Or off... :-)

I wonder if everyone would be happy with a statement saying that it's a
on / on switch which is used to implement a multiplexer?

> 
> > I was a bit annoyed for having to have two drivers for switching the source
> > (one for GPIO, another for syscon / register), where both of the drivers
> > would be essentially the same with the minor exception of having a slightly
> > different means to toggle the mux setting.
> 
> Well, most of the video-bus-switch is the video4linux glue. Actual
> switching is very very small part. So.. where is the other driver?
> Looks like we have the same problem.

It's here, slightly hidden in plain sight in the same patch with the MUX
framework:

<URL:https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1328763.html>

> 
> > The MUX framework adds an API for controlling the MUX. Thus we'll need only
> > a single driver that uses the MUX framework API for V4L2. As an added bonus,
> > V4L2 would be in line with the rest of the MUX usage in the kernel.
> > 
> > The set appears to already contain a GPIO MUX. What's needed would be to use
> > the MUX API instead of direct GPIOs usage.
> 
> If there's a driver that already does switching for video4linux
> devices? Do you have a pointer?

I don't think there's one. But with MUX API, we'll be fine using a single
driver instead of two (other one for syscon on iMX).

Cc Steve and Philipp.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus
e-mail: sakari.ailus@iki.fi	XMPP: sailus@retiisi.org.uk

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[PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-03 13:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi> - 2017-02-03 14:10 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-03 22:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi> - 2017-02-03 22:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-04 23:00 +0100
          Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi> - 2017-02-04 23:40 +0100
            Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-05 22:20 +0100
              Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> - 2017-02-06 00:50 +0100
                [PATCH] media: add operation to get configuration of "the other  side" of the link Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-06 10:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 14:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-03 22:10 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> - 2017-02-04 02:10 +0100
  Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> - 2017-02-08 23:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-08 23:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> - 2017-02-10 00:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-10 21:00 +0100
          Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi> - 2017-02-10 23:20 +0100
            Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-13 11:00 +0100
              Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi> - 2017-02-13 11:30 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> - 2017-02-10 00:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-09 00:00 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> - 2017-02-10 00:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH] devicetree: Add video bus switch Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> - 2017-02-10 22:20 +0100

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