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Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the kernel in the "skid" region

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On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 09:46:43AM -0700, Kyle Huey wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 09:51:00PM -0700, Kyle Huey wrote:
>> >> My understanding of the situation is as follows:
>> >>
>> >> There is some time, call it t_0, where the hardware counter overflows.
>> >> The PMU triggers an interrupt, but this is not instantaneous.  Call
>> >> the time when the interrupt is actually delivered t_1.  Then t_1 - t_0
>> >> is the "skid".
>> >>
>> >> Note that if the counter is `exclude_kernel`, then at t_0 the CPU
>> >> *must* be running a userspace program.  But by t_1, the CPU may be
>> >> doing something else.  Your patch changed things so that if at t_1 the
>> >> CPU is in the kernel, then the interrupt is discarded.  But rr has
>> >> programmed the counter to deliver a signal on overflow (via F_SETSIG
>> >> on the fd returned by perf_event_open).  This change results in the
>> >> signal never being delivered, because the interrupt was ignored.
>> >> (More accurately, the signal is delivered the *next* time the counter
>> >> overflows, which is far past where we wanted to inject our
>> >> asynchronous event into our tracee.
>> >
>> > Yes, this is a bug.
>> >
>> > As we're trying to avoid smapling state, I think we can move the check
>> > into perf_prepare_sample() or __perf_event_output(), where that state is
>> > actually sampled. I'll take a look at that momentarily.
>> >
>> > Just to clarify, you don't care about the sample state at all? i.e. you
>> > don't need the user program counter?
>>
>> Right. `sample_regs_user`, `sample_star_user`, `branch_sample_type`,
>> etc are all 0.
>> https://github.com/mozilla/rr/blob/cf594dd01f07d96a61409e9f41a29f78c8c51693/src/PerfCounters.cc#L194
>> is what we do use.
>
> Given that, I must be missing something.
>
> In __perf_event_overflow(), we already bail out early if
> !is_sampling_event(event), i.e. when the sample_period is 0.
>
> Your attr has a sample_period of zero, so something must be initialising
> that.
>
> Do you always call PERF_EVENT_IOC_PERIOD, or is something in the core
> fiddling with the sample period behind your back?

We always either set sample_period or call PERF_EVENT_IOC_PERIOD (with
an enormous number if we don't actually want an interrupt.  See
`PerfCounters::reset`, line 446.

> It seems odd that an event without any samples to take has a sample
> period. I'm surprised that there's not *some* sample_type set.

Perhaps sample_period is misleadingly named :)  Alternatively, you
could imagine it as sampling where we're only interested in whether
the counter passed the sampling value or not.

>> > Is that signal delivered to the tracee, or to a different process that
>> > traces it? If the latter, what ensures that the task is stopped
>> > sufficiently quickly?
>>
>> It's delivered to the tracee (via an F_SETOWN_EX with the tracee tid).
>> In practice we've found that on modern Intel hardware that the
>> interrupt and resulting signal delivery delay is bounded by a
>> relatively small number of counter events.
>
> Ok.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.

- Kyle

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Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> - 2017-06-28 03:10 +0200
  Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@linux.intel.com> - 2017-06-28 04:10 +0200
    Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> - 2017-06-28 07:00 +0200
      Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@linux.intel.com> - 2017-06-28 07:40 +0200
        Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> - 2017-06-28 09:40 +0200
      Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-06-28 12:20 +0200
        [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are dropped  (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region) Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-06-28 13:00 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu> - 2017-06-28 14:50 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-06-28 15:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com> - 2017-06-29 10:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com> - 2017-06-29 10:30 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-06-28 20:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> - 2017-06-29 01:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@linux.intel.com> - 2017-06-29 02:30 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> - 2017-06-30 19:50 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2017-06-29 10:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] perf/core: generate overflow signal when samples are  dropped (WAS: Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we  entered the kernel in the "skid" region) Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> - 2017-06-28 20:00 +0200
        Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region "Robert O'Callahan" <robert@ocallahan.org> - 2017-06-28 20:00 +0200
        Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> - 2017-06-28 20:00 +0200
          Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-06-28 20:00 +0200
        Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-06-28 20:00 +0200
        Re: [REGRESSION] perf/core: PMU interrupts dropped if we entered the  kernel in the "skid" region Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> - 2017-06-28 20:00 +0200

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