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RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch exported by ACPI

From "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch exported by ACPI
Date 2017-06-15 05:00 +0200
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Hi, Benjamin

> From: Benjamin Tissoires [mailto:benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com]
> Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch exported by ACPI
> 
> Hi,
> 
> [Sorry for the delay, I have been sidetracked from this]
> 
> On Jun 07 2017 or thereabouts, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Thu, 01.06.17 20:46, Benjamin Tissoires (benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Sending this as a WIP as it still need a few changes, but it mostly works as
> > > expected (still not fully compliant yet).
> > >
> > > So this is based on Lennart's comment in [1]: if the LID state is not reliable,
> > > the kernel should not export the LID switch device as long as we are not sure
> > > about its state.
> >
> > Ah nice! I (obviously) like this approach.
> 
> Heh. Now I just need to convince Lv that it's the right approach.

I feel we don't have big conflicts.
And I already took part of your idea into this patchset:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9771121/
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9771119/
I tested my surface pros with Ubuntu, they are working as expected.

> > > Note that systemd currently doesn't sync the state when the input node just
> > > appears. This is a systemd bug, and it should not be handled by the kernel
> > > community.
> >
> > Uh if this is borked, we should indeed fix this in systemd. Is there
> > already a systemd github bug about this? If not, please create one,
> > and we'll look into it!
> 
> I don't think there is. I haven't raised it yet because I am not so sure
> this will not break again those worthless unreliable LID, and if we play
> whack a mole between the kernel and user space, things are going to be
> nasty. So I'd rather have this fixed in systemd along with the
> unreliable LID switch knowledge, so we are sure that the kernel behaves
> the way we expect it to be.

This is my feeling:
We needn't go that far.
We can interpret "input node appears" into "default input node state".
That's what you want for acpi button driver - we now defaults to "method" mode.

What's your opinion?

Thanks
Lv

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Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch  exported by ACPI Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com> - 2017-06-13 12:10 +0200
  RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID  switch exported by ACPI "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com> - 2017-06-15 05:00 +0200
    Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch  exported by ACPI Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net> - 2017-06-15 09:00 +0200
      RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID  switch exported by ACPI "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com> - 2017-06-15 09:40 +0200
        Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch  exported by ACPI Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net> - 2017-06-15 10:00 +0200
          RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID  switch exported by ACPI "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com> - 2017-06-16 07:40 +0200
            Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch  exported by ACPI Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com> - 2017-06-16 09:30 +0200
              RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID  switch exported by ACPI "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com> - 2017-06-16 09:50 +0200
                Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch  exported by ACPI Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com> - 2017-06-16 10:20 +0200
                RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID  switch exported by ACPI "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com> - 2017-06-16 11:00 +0200
                Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch exported by ACPI Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net> - 2017-06-16 11:10 +0200
                Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID switch  exported by ACPI Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de> - 2017-06-16 18:40 +0200
                RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID  switch exported by ACPI "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com> - 2017-06-19 04:20 +0200
                RE: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID  switch exported by ACPI "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@intel.com> - 2017-06-19 03:50 +0200
                Re: [systemd-devel] [WIP PATCH 0/4] Rework the unreliable LID  switch exported by ACPI Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net> - 2017-06-20 00:10 +0200

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