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Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get()

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On Wed 2017-05-24 19:27:38, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 03:00:17AM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 05:45:37PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 02:14:52AM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 03:27:12PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 08:24:43PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > > > In theory it is possible multiple concurrent threads will try to
> > > > > > kmod_umh_threads_get() and as such atomic_inc(&kmod_concurrent) at
> > > > > > the same time, therefore enabling a small time during which we've
> > > > > > bumped kmod_concurrent but have not really enabled work. By using
> > > > > > preemption we mitigate this a bit.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Preemption is not needed when we kmod_umh_threads_put().
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@kernel.org>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  kernel/kmod.c | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/kernel/kmod.c b/kernel/kmod.c
> > > > > > index 563600fc9bb1..7ea11dbc7564 100644
> > > > > > --- a/kernel/kmod.c
> > > > > > +++ b/kernel/kmod.c
> > > > > > @@ -113,15 +113,35 @@ static int call_modprobe(char *module_name, int wait)
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  static int kmod_umh_threads_get(void)
> > > > > >  {
> > > > > > +	int ret = 0;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/*
> > > > > > +	 * Disabling preemption makes sure that we are not rescheduled here
> > > > > > +	 *
> > > > > > +	 * Also preemption helps kmod_concurrent is not increased by mistake
> > > > > > +	 * for too long given in theory two concurrent threads could race on
> > > > > > +	 * atomic_inc() before we atomic_read() -- we know that's possible
> > > > > > +	 * and but we don't care, this is not used for object accounting and
> > > > > > +	 * is just a subjective threshold. The alternative is a lock.
> > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > +	preempt_disable();
> > > > > >  	atomic_inc(&kmod_concurrent);
> > > > > >  	if (atomic_read(&kmod_concurrent) <= max_modprobes)
> > > > > 
> > > > > That is very "fancy" way to basically say:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	if (atomic_inc_return(&kmod_concurrent) <= max_modprobes)
> > > > 
> > > > Do you mean to combine the atomic_inc() and atomic_read() in one as you noted
> > > > (as that is not a change in this patch), *or* that using a memory barrier here
> > > > with atomic_inc_return() should suffice to address the same and avoid an
> > > > explicit preemption  enable / disable ?
> > > 
> > > I am saying that atomic_inc_return() will avoid situation where you have
> > > more than one threads incrementing the counter and believing that they
> > > are [not] allowed to start modprobe.
> > > 
> > > I have no idea why you think preempt_disable() would help here. It only
> > > ensures that current thread will not be preempted between the point
> > > where you update the counter and where you check the result. It does not
> > > stop interrupts nor does it affect other threads that might be updating
> > > the same counter.
> > 
> > The preemption was inspired by __module_get() and try_module_get(), was that
> > rather silly ?
> 
> As far as I can see prrempt_disable() was needed in __module_get() when
> modules user per-cpu refcounts: you did not want to move away from CPU
> while manipulating refcount.
> 
> Now that modules use simple atomics for refcounting I think these
> preempt_disable() and preempt_enable() can be removed.

preempt_disable() still might be useful because you do the
atomic_dec() when you reach the limit.

By other words, you have three operations that should be atomic:
inc, read, and dec. atomic_inc_return() covers only two of them.

Hmm, a solution might be to use atomic_dec_if_positive().
I would kmod_concurrent to something like kmod_concurrent_allowed,
intialize it with the maximum allowed number. Then you could do:

static int kmod_umh_threads_get(void)
{
	if (atomic_dec_if_positive(kmod_concurrent_available) < 0)
		return -EBUSY;
	return 0;
}

Best Regards,
Petr

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[PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org> - 2017-05-19 05:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 00:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org> - 2017-05-25 02:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 02:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org> - 2017-05-25 03:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 04:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2017-05-25 13:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org> - 2017-05-25 17:40 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 18:50 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 5/6] kmod: preempt on kmod_umh_threads_get() Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com> - 2017-05-25 17:20 +0200

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