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Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page

From Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page
Date 2017-05-16 21:00 +0200
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On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 02:27:34PM +0200, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
>> It's possible that calling sendfile() to copy the data from a memfd to
>> itself may result in doing a memcpy() with overlapping arguments.
>> To avoid undefined behavior here, replace memcpy() with memmove() and
>> rename memcpy_to_page()/memcpy_from_page() accordingly.
>
> Er...  And what semantics would you assign to such sendfile()?  I really
> want to see details, because it sounds like memmove() here will not be
> any more useful than memcpy() - you still can esily get odd behaviour.


What odd behavior can we get with memmove?

Case that I am thinking of is when you want to delete part of the file
in the middle. To do that you move tail of the file and then truncate.
Memmove will do the intended thing. While memcpy can lost of data and
duplicate another.

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[PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com> - 2017-05-16 14:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 20:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> - 2017-05-16 21:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:40 +0200
        Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> - 2017-05-16 22:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 23:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> - 2017-05-16 23:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 23:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> - 2017-05-17 00:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH] [iov_iter] use memmove() when copying to/from user page Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-05-17 00:50 +0200

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