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Re: RFC: better timer interface

From Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: RFC: better timer interface
Date 2017-05-16 17:50 +0200
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On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> this series attempts to provide a "modern" timer interface where the
> callback gets the timer_list structure as an argument so that it
> can use container_of instead of having to cast to/from unsigned long
> all the time (or even worse use function pointer casts, we have quite
> a few of those as well).

This looks really nice, but what is the long-term plan for the interface?
Do you expect that we will eventually change all 700+ users of timer_list
to the new type, or do we keep both variants around indefinitely to avoid
having to do mass-conversions?

If we are going to touch them all in the end, we might want to think
about other changes that could be useful here. The main one I have
in mind would be moving away from 'jiffies + timeout' as the interface,
and instead passing a relative number of milliseconds (or seconds)
into a mod_timer() variant. This is what most drivers want anyway,
and if we have both changes (callback argument and expiration
time) in place, we modernize the API one driver at a time with both
changes at once.

      Arnd

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RFC: better timer interface Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 13:50 +0200
  [PATCH 3/9] kthread: remove unused macros Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 13:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 3/9] kthread: remove unused macros Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> - 2017-05-17 14:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 3/9] kthread: remove unused macros Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-18 10:30 +0200
  [PATCH 8/9] tlclk: switch switchover_timer to a modern timer Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 13:50 +0200
  [PATCH 6/9] s390: switch topology_timer to a modern timer Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 13:50 +0200
  [PATCH 4/9] workqueue: switch to modern timers Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 13:50 +0200
  [PATCH 7/9] s390: switch lgr timer to a modern timer Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 13:50 +0200
  [PATCH 9/9] timers: remove old timer initialization macros Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 13:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 9/9] timers: remove old timer initialization macros Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-05-16 21:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 9/9] timers: remove old timer initialization macros Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-18 10:30 +0200
  [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 14:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> - 2017-05-16 21:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-05-16 22:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-18 10:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-18 10:50 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-05-18 11:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-21 09:10 +0200
              Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-05-21 14:30 +0200
          Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2017-05-21 20:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-05-21 20:30 +0200
    RE: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> - 2017-05-19 12:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCH 2/9] timers: provide a "modern" variant of timers 'Christoph Hellwig' <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-21 09:00 +0200
  [PATCH 5/9] powerpc/numa: switch topology_timer to modern timer Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 14:00 +0200
  Re: RFC: better timer interface Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-05-16 17:50 +0200
    Re: RFC: better timer interface Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-16 18:00 +0200
      Re: RFC: better timer interface Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-05-16 22:30 +0200
        Re: RFC: better timer interface Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-05-18 10:30 +0200
        Re: RFC: better timer interface Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2017-05-21 19:20 +0200
          Re: RFC: better timer interface Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2017-05-21 20:20 +0200
            Re: RFC: better timer interface Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-05-22 13:30 +0200
              Re: RFC: better timer interface Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2017-05-22 21:30 +0200
            RE: RFC: better timer interface David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> - 2017-05-23 13:40 +0200
              RE: RFC: better timer interface Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2017-05-23 14:00 +0200
                RE: RFC: better timer interface David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> - 2017-05-23 15:00 +0200
                RE: RFC: better timer interface Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2017-05-23 15:10 +0200
          Re: RFC: better timer interface Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-05-22 15:40 +0200
            Re: RFC: better timer interface Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> - 2017-05-22 21:20 +0200

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