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Re: [PATCH v6 0/2] security: tty: make TIOCSTI ioctl require CAP_SYS_ADMIN

From Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH v6 0/2] security: tty: make TIOCSTI ioctl require CAP_SYS_ADMIN
Date 2017-05-10 22:40 +0200
Message-ID <tFGyS-5if-5@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References <tDUPD-8u1-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
Organization Intel Corporation

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On Fri,  5 May 2017 19:20:16 -0400
Matt Brown <matt@nmatt.com> wrote:

> This patchset introduces the tiocsti_restrict sysctl, whose default is
> controlled via CONFIG_SECURITY_TIOCSTI_RESTRICT. When activated, this
> control restricts all TIOCSTI ioctl calls from non CAP_SYS_ADMIN users.
> 
> This patch was inspired from GRKERNSEC_HARDEN_TTY.
> 
> This patch would have prevented
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411256 under the following
> conditions:
> * non-privileged container
> * container run inside new user namespace
> 
> Possible effects on userland:
> 
> There could be a few user programs that would be effected by this
> change.
> See: <https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=ioctl%5C%28.*TIOCSTI>
> notable programs are: agetty, csh, xemacs and tcsh
> 
> However, I still believe that this change is worth it given that the
> Kconfig defaults to n. 

And it still doesn't deal with the fact that there are hundreds of other
ways to annoy the owner of a tty if it's passed to a lower privilege
child from framebuffer reprogramming through keyboard remaps.

The proper way to handle those cases is to create a pty/tty pair and use
that. Your patch is pure snake oil and if anything implies safety that
doesn't exist.

In addition your change to allow it to be used by root in the guest
completely invalidates any protection you have because I can push

"rm -rf /\n"

as root in my namespace and exit

The tty buffers are not flushed across the context change so the shell
you return to gets the input and oh dear....

Alan

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[PATCH v6 0/2] security: tty: make TIOCSTI ioctl require CAP_SYS_ADMIN Matt Brown <matt@nmatt.com> - 2017-05-06 01:30 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v6 0/2] security: tty: make TIOCSTI ioctl require  CAP_SYS_ADMIN Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> - 2017-05-10 22:40 +0200
    Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v6 0/2] security: tty: make  TIOCSTI ioctl require CAP_SYS_ADMIN Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 23:10 +0200

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