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Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map kernel in user mode

From Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
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Subject Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map kernel in user mode
Date 2017-05-08 00:10 +0200
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Daniel,

Am 07.05.2017 um 23:45 schrieb Daniel Gruss:
>> Just did a quick test on my main KVM host, a 8 core Intel(R) Xeon(R)
>> CPU E3-1240 V2.
>> KVM guests are 4.10 w/o CONFIG_KAISER and kvmconfig without CONFIG_PARAVIRT.
>> Building a defconfig kernel within that guests is about 10% slower
>> when CONFIG_KAISER
>> is enabled.
> 
> Thank you for testing it! :)
> 
>> Is this expected?
> 
> It sounds plausible. First, I would expect any form of virtualization to increase the overhead. Second, for the processor (Ivy Bridge), I would have expected even higher
> performance overheads. KAISER utilizes very recent performance improvements in Intel processors...

Ahh, *very* recent is the keyword then. ;)
I was a bit confused since in your paper the overhead is less than 1%.

What platforms did you test?
i.e. how does it perform on recent AMD systems?

Thanks,
//richard

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[RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-04 12:20 +0200
  Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-04 14:30 +0200
  Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@google.com> - 2017-05-04 17:30 +0200
    Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-05 10:30 +0200
      Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@google.com> - 2017-05-05 17:50 +0200
        Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode David Gens <david.gens@cs.tu-darmstadt.de> - 2017-05-06 06:40 +0200
          Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-06 10:40 +0200
            Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-05-08 12:30 +0200
              Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-08 13:00 +0200
                Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2017-05-08 15:30 +0200
                Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-08 15:50 +0200
            Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-08 16:00 +0200
              Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@google.com> - 2017-05-08 16:20 +0200
                Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-08 16:20 +0200
      Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-08 15:30 +0200
  Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map kernel in user mode Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> - 2017-05-04 17:50 +0200
    Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-05 09:50 +0200
      Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-07 23:50 +0200
        Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2017-05-08 00:10 +0200
          Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-08 00:20 +0200
            Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not mapkernel in user mode "Fogh, Anders" <anders.fogh@gdata-adan.de> - 2017-05-09 17:00 +0200
              Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not  mapkernel in user mode Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at> - 2017-05-09 17:00 +0200
                Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not  mapkernel in user mode Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> - 2017-05-09 17:40 +0200
      Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 00:10 +0200
  Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> - 2017-05-05 18:00 +0200
    Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Daniel Gruss <daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at> - 2017-05-06 10:30 +0200
  Re: [kernel-hardening] [RFC, PATCH] x86_64: KAISER - do not map  kernel in user mode Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> - 2017-05-05 18:00 +0200

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