Re: [GIT PULL] PCI fixes for v4.10

From	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [GIT PULL] PCI fixes for v4.10
Date	2017-05-02 20:50 +0200
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On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 12:49:29PM +0200, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 10:41:20PM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> > On 5/1/2017 9:54 PM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > (b) ASPM L1 enabled on boot, but disabled after powering off and back on
> > >     => I believe Sinan is working on this (+cc).
> > 
> > The decision was made not to touch ASPM registers following hotplug insertion
> > unless pcie_aspm.policy=powersave is specified.
> > 
> > The discussion is here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/4/17/255
> > 
> > This was done to maintain existing behavior and not break things.
> 
> Thanks for the reference, I hadn't followed the discussion in April
> very closely, but I think the outcome of the discussion is unfortunate.
> 
> As can be seen in Ashok's tests, merely turning slot power off and back
> on is sufficient to end up with a setting that draws more power.  That
> may be equally surprising for users as the issues would be that we seek
> to avoid with a "safety-first" ASPM policy.  In any case it seems
> undesirable.
> 
> I hope this is not the end if it and would like to encourage you to
> keep working on this.  Perhaps it is too simple to just define a
> default policy, and what is really needed is a policy that adjusts
> itself dynamically to specific devices or workloads, or that can be
> influenced by device drivers.

It's not the end of the discussion.  If you have an alternate
proposal, we'd love to hear it, especially if you implement it.

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Re: [GIT PULL] PCI fixes for v4.10 Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> - 2017-05-02 04:00 +0200
  Re: [GIT PULL] PCI fixes for v4.10 Sinan Kaya <okaya@codeaurora.org> - 2017-05-02 04:50 +0200
    Re: [GIT PULL] PCI fixes for v4.10 Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> - 2017-05-02 12:50 +0200
      Re: [GIT PULL] PCI fixes for v4.10 Sinan Kaya <okaya@codeaurora.org> - 2017-05-02 16:20 +0200
      Re: [GIT PULL] PCI fixes for v4.10 Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> - 2017-05-02 20:50 +0200
  Re: [GIT PULL] PCI fixes for v4.10 Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> - 2017-05-06 11:10 +0200

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