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RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes

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On Mon, 6 Feb 2017, Luck, Tony wrote:

>> 12) Whatever fs or syscall is provided instead of perf syscalls, it
>> should provide total_time_enabled in the way perf does, otherwise is
>> hard to interpret MBM values.
>
> It seems that it is hard to define what we even mean by memory bandwidth.
>
> If you are measuring just one task and you find that the total number of bytes
> read is 1GB at some point, and one second later the total bytes is 2GB, then
> it is clear that the average bandwidth for this process is 1GB/s. If you know
> that the task was only running for 50% of the cycles during that 1s interval,
> you could say that it is doing 2GB/s ... which is I believe what you were
> thinking when you wrote #12 above.  But whether that is right depends a
> bit on *why* it only ran 50% of the time. If it was time-sliced out by the
> scheduler ... then it may have been trying to be a 2GB/s app. But if it
> was waiting for packets from the network, then it really is using 1 GB/s.

Is the requirement is to have both enabled and run time or just enabled time 
(enabled time must be easy to report - just the wall time from start trace to 
end trace)?

This is not reported correctly in the upstream perf cqm and for
cgroup -C we dont report it either (since we report the package).

Thanks,
Vikas

>
> All bets are off if you are measuring a service that consists of several
> tasks running concurrently. All you can really talk about is the aggregate
> average bandwidth (total bytes / wall-clock time). It makes no sense to
> try and factor in how much cpu time each of the individual tasks got.
>
> -Tony
>

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RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-01 21:10 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-02 00:20 +0100
    RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-02 18:40 +0100
    RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-02 20:40 +0100
      RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Shivappa Vikas <vikas.shivappa@intel.com> - 2017-02-02 21:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-02 21:30 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-03 00:50 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-03 02:50 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-03 03:20 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-03 19:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-03 22:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-03 23:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> - 2017-02-07 09:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-07 20:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com> - 2017-02-08 22:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Shivappa Vikas <vikas.shivappa@intel.com> - 2017-02-07 21:30 +0100
    RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-06 20:00 +0100
    RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-06 22:30 +0100
      RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Shivappa Vikas <vikas.shivappa@intel.com> - 2017-02-06 22:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-06 22:50 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-06 23:20 +0100
        RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> - 2017-02-07 00:30 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-07 01:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> - 2017-02-02 01:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> - 2017-02-02 02:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com> - 2017-02-02 02:20 +0100
    RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes "Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com> - 2017-02-02 02:30 +0100
      RE: [PATCH 00/12] Cqm2: Intel Cache quality monitoring fixes Shivappa Vikas <vikas.shivappa@intel.com> - 2017-02-02 19:00 +0100

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