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| From | Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.kernel |
| Subject | Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data |
| Date | 2016-10-05 17:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <soW9c-2E1-13@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 10:55:57AM -0400, bdegraaf@codeaurora.org wrote: > On 2016-10-04 15:12, Mark Rutland wrote: > >Hi Brent, > > > >Could you *please* clarify if you are trying to solve: > > > >(a) a correctness issue (e.g. data corruption) seen in practice. > >(b) a correctness issue (e.g. data corruption) found by inspection. > >(c) A performance issue, seen in practice. > >(d) A performance issue, found by inspection. > > > >Any one of these is fine; we just need to know in order to be able to > >help effectively, and so far it hasn't been clear. Brent, you forgot to state which: 'a-d' is the case here. > I found the problem. > > Back in September of 2013, arm64 atomics were broken due to missing barriers > in certain situations, but the problem at that time was undiscovered. > > Will Deacon's commit d2212b4dce596fee83e5c523400bf084f4cc816c went in at > that > time and changed the correct cmpxchg64 in lockref.c to cmpxchg64_relaxed. > > d2212b4 appeared to be OK at that time because the additional barrier > requirements of this specific code sequence were not yet discovered, and > this change was consistent with the arm64 atomic code of that time. > > Around February of 2014, some discovery led Will to correct the problem with > the atomic code via commit 8e86f0b409a44193f1587e87b69c5dcf8f65be67, which > has an excellent explanation of potential ordering problems with the same > code sequence used by lockref.c. > > With this updated understanding, the earlier commit > (d2212b4dce596fee83e5c523400bf084f4cc816c) should be reverted. > > Because acquire/release semantics are insufficient for the full ordering, > the single barrier after the store exclusive is the best approach, similar > to Will's atomic barrier fix. This again does not in fact describe the problem. What is the problem with lockref, and how (refer the earlier a-d multiple choice answer) was this found. Now, I have been looking, and we have some idea what you _might_ be alluding to, but please explain which accesses get reordered how and cause problems.
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[RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Brent DeGraaf <bdegraaf@codeaurora.org> - 2016-09-30 19:50 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> - 2016-09-30 20:50 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-01 17:50 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-09-30 21:00 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-09-30 21:10 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-01 18:10 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2016-09-30 21:40 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-01 18:20 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2016-10-01 20:20 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-03 21:30 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-04 09:00 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2016-10-04 12:20 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-04 20:00 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-04 20:30 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> - 2016-10-04 21:20 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-05 17:00 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-05 17:20 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-10-05 17:20 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-05 17:40 +0200
Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data bdegraaf@codeaurora.org - 2016-10-12 22:10 +0200
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