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Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in __zone_watermark_ok()

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On Mon 26-09-16 17:16:54, Xishi Qiu wrote:
> On 2016/9/26 16:58, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 26-09-16 16:47:57, Xishi Qiu wrote:
> >> commit 97a16fc82a7c5b0cfce95c05dfb9561e306ca1b1
> >> (mm, page_alloc: only enforce watermarks for order-0 allocations)
> >> rewrite the high-order check in __zone_watermark_ok(), but I think it
> >> quietly fix a bug. Please see the following.
> >>
> >> Before this patch, the high-order check is this:
> >> __zone_watermark_ok()
> >> 	...
> >> 	for (o = 0; o < order; o++) {
> >> 		/* At the next order, this order's pages become unavailable */
> >> 		free_pages -= z->free_area[o].nr_free << o;
> >>
> >> 		/* Require fewer higher order pages to be free */
> >> 		min >>= 1;
> >>
> >> 		if (free_pages <= min)
> >> 			return false;
> >> 	}
> >> 	...
> >>
> >> If we have cma memory, and we alloc a high-order movable page, then it's right.
> >>
> >> But if we alloc a high-order unmovable page(e.g. alloc kernel stack in dup_task_struct()),
> >> and there are a lot of high-order cma pages, but little high-order unmovable
> >> pages, the it is still return *true*, but we will alloc *failed* finally, because
> >> we cannot fallback from migrate_unmovable to migrate_cma, right?
> > 
> > AFAIR CMA wmark check was always tricky and the above commit has made
> > the situation at least a bit more clear. Anyway IIRC 
> > 
> > #ifdef CONFIG_CMA
> > 	/* If allocation can't use CMA areas don't use free CMA pages */
> > 	if (!(alloc_flags & ALLOC_CMA))
> > 		free_cma = zone_page_state(z, NR_FREE_CMA_PAGES);
> > #endif
> > 
> > 	if (free_pages - free_cma <= min + z->lowmem_reserve[classzone_idx])
> > 		return false;
> > 
> > should reduce the prioblem because a lot of CMA pages should just get us
> > below the wmark + reserve boundary.
> 
> Hi Michal,
> 
> If we have many high-order cma pages, and the left pages (unmovable/movable/reclaimable)
> are also enough, but they are fragment, then it will triger the problem.
> If we alloc a high-order unmovable page, water mark check return *true*, but we
> will alloc *failed*, right?

As Vlastimil has written. There were known issues with the wmark checks
and high order requests.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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[RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in __zone_watermark_ok() Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com> - 2016-09-26 10:50 +0200
  Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in  __zone_watermark_ok() Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-09-26 11:00 +0200
    Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in __zone_watermark_ok() Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com> - 2016-09-26 11:20 +0200
      Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in  __zone_watermark_ok() Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-09-26 11:50 +0200
        Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in __zone_watermark_ok() Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com> - 2016-09-26 12:20 +0200
          Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in  __zone_watermark_ok() Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> - 2016-09-26 13:10 +0200
            Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in  __zone_watermark_ok() Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com> - 2016-09-28 07:50 +0200
              Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in __zone_watermark_ok() Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com> - 2016-09-28 10:00 +0200
  Re: [RFC] mm: a question about high-order check in  __zone_watermark_ok() Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> - 2016-09-26 11:00 +0200

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