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| From | Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.kernel |
| Subject | Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() |
| Date | 2016-09-23 09:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sktp7-Nf-13@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:44:37PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 02:29:29PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> This will prevent a crash if get_wchan() runs after the task stack
> >> is freed.
> >
> > I think I found some more stuff. Have a look at KSTK_EIP() and KSTK_ESP(), I think
> > they read from the saved userspace registers area at the top of the kernel stack?
> >
> > Used on remote processes in:
> > vma_is_stack_for_task() (via /proc/$pid/maps)
>
> This isn't used in /proc/$pid/maps -- it's only used in
> /proc/$pid/task/$tid/maps. I wonder if anyone actually cares about it
> -- it certainly won't work reliably.
>
> I could pin the stack in vma_is_stack_for_task, but it seems
> potentially better to me to change it to vma_is_stack_for_current()
> and remove the offending caller in /proc, replacing it with "return
> 0". Thoughts?
I just scrolled through the debian codesearch results for "\[stack\]" -
there seem to only be 105 across all of debian's packages, many of them
duplicates - and I didn't see any that looked like they used the tid map.
So I think this might work.
( https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=%22%5C%5Bstack%5C%5D%22 )
> > do_task_stat() (/proc/$pid/stat)
>
> Like this:
>
> mm = get_task_mm(task);
> if (mm) {
> vsize = task_vsize(mm);
> if (permitted) {
> eip = KSTK_EIP(task);
> esp = KSTK_ESP(task);
> }
> }
>
> Can we just delete this outright? It seems somewhere between mostly
> and entirely useless, and it also seems dangerous. Until very
> recently, on x86_64, this would have been a potential info leak, as
> SYSCALL followed closely by a hardware interrupt would cause *kernel*
> values to land in task_pt_regs(). I don't even want to think about
> what this code does if the task is in vm86 mode. I wouldn't be at all
> surprised if non-x86 architectures have all kinds of interesting
> thinks happen if you do this to a task that isn't running normal
> non-atomic kernel code at the time.
>
> I would advocate for unconditionally returning zeros in these two stat fields.
I'd like that a lot.
I guess the two things that might theoretically use it are ptrace users
and (very theoretically) sampling profiling stuff or so?
In gdb, the only code I can find that reads this is in gdb/linux-nat.c, but
it's behind an "#ifdef 0":
#if 0 /* Don't know how architecture-dependent the rest is...
Anyway the signal bitmap info is available from "status". */
if (fscanf (procfile, "%lu ", <mp) > 0) /* FIXME arch? */
printf_filtered (_("Kernel stack pointer: 0x%lx\n"), ltmp);
if (fscanf (procfile, "%lu ", <mp) > 0) /* FIXME arch? */
printf_filtered (_("Kernel instr pointer: 0x%lx\n"), ltmp);
[...]
strace and ltrace don't seem to be using it.
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[PATCH 00/12] thread_info cleanups and stack caching Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:30 +0200
[PATCH 03/12] um: Stop conflating task_struct::stack with thread_info Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH 03/12] um: Stop conflating task_struct::stack with thread_info Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-09-15 08:30 +0200
[tip:x86/asm] um/Stop conflating task_struct::stack with thread_info tip-bot for Linus Torvalds <tipbot@zytor.com> - 2016-09-15 12:50 +0200
[PATCH 12/12] fork: Cache two thread stacks per cpu if CONFIG_VMAP_STACK is set Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
[PATCH 01/12] x86/asm: Move 'status' from struct thread_info to struct thread_struct Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
[tip:x86/asm] x86/asm: Move the thread_info::status field to thread_struct tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski <tipbot@zytor.com> - 2016-09-15 12:50 +0200
[PATCH 10/12] lib/syscall: Pin the task stack in collect_syscall() Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
[PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-09-14 17:00 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-09-14 20:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-09-14 20:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-09-15 20:10 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-09-15 20:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-09-15 20:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> - 2016-09-15 21:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-09-16 09:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-09-16 17:20 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-16 17:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-09-16 18:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-09-16 17:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-09-15 08:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 08/12] x86/dumpstack: Pin the target stack in save_stack_trace_tsk() Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-09-15 11:30 +0200
[PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> - 2016-09-17 04:10 +0200
Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-09-23 00:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-09-23 01:00 +0200
Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> - 2016-09-23 09:50 +0200
Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2016-09-23 20:30 +0200
Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> - 2016-09-23 20:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 09/12] x86/process: Pin the target stack in get_wchan() Tycho Andersen <tycho.andersen@canonical.com> - 2016-09-26 07:20 +0200
[PATCH 06/12] sched: Add try_get_task_stack() and put_task_stack() Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
[PATCH 02/12] x86/entry: Get rid of pt_regs_to_thread_info() Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
Re: [PATCH 02/12] x86/entry: Get rid of pt_regs_to_thread_info() Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-09-15 08:30 +0200
[tip:x86/asm] x86/entry: Get rid of pt_regs_to_thread_info() tip-bot for Linus Torvalds <tipbot@zytor.com> - 2016-09-15 12:50 +0200
[PATCH 05/12] x86: Move thread_info into task_struct Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
[tip:x86/asm] x86: Move thread_info into task_struct tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski <tipbot@zytor.com> - 2016-09-15 12:50 +0200
[PATCH 04/12] sched: Allow putting thread_info into task_struct Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
[tip:x86/asm] sched/core: Allow putting thread_info into task_struct tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski <tipbot@zytor.com> - 2016-09-15 12:50 +0200
[PATCH 11/12] sched: Free the stack early if CONFIG_THREAD_INFO_IN_TASK Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
[PATCH 07/12] kthread: to_live_kthread() needs try_get_task_stack() Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-09-13 23:40 +0200
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