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Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation

From Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation
Date 2016-12-02 20:30 +0100
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Borislav Petkov <bp@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Right, we can try to do something like invalidate_icache() or so in
>> there with the JMP so that the BSP refetches modified code and see where
>> it gets us.
>
> I'd really rather rjust mark it noinline with a comment. That way the
> return from the function acts as the control flow change.
>
>> The good thing is, the early patching paths run before SMP is
>> up but from looking at load_module(), for example, which does
>> post_relocation()->module_finalize()->apply_alternatives(), this can
>> happen late.
>>
>> Now there I'd like to avoid other cores walking into that address being
>> patched. Or are we "safe" there in the sense that load_module() happens
>> on one CPU only sequentially? (I haven't looked at that code to see
>> what's going on there, actually).
>
> 'sync_core()' doesn't help for other CPU's anyway, you need to do the
> cross-call IPI. So worrying about other CPU's is *not* a valid reason
> to keep a "sync_core()" call.
>
> Seriously, the only reason I can see for "sync_core()" really is:
>
>  - some deep non-serialized MSR  access or similar (ie things like
> firmware loading etc really might want it, and a mchine check might
> want it)

Not even firmware loading wants it.  Firmware loading needs
specifically cpuid(eax=1).  It has nothing to do with serializing
anything -- it's just a CPU bug that was turned into "architecture".
I think it really is just cross-address or cross-core modification,
and I'll add a comment to that effect.

--Andy

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[PATCH 0/4] CPUID-less CPU fixes and improvements Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-11-30 21:40 +0100
  [PATCH 4/4] x86/asm: Change sync_core() to use MOV to CR2 to serialize Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-11-30 21:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 4/4] x86/asm: Change sync_core() to use MOV to CR2 to  serialize Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-12-01 10:30 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 4/4] x86/asm: Change sync_core() to use MOV to CR2 to serialize Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-01 18:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 4/4] x86/asm: Change sync_core() to use MOV to CR2 to  serialize Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> - 2016-12-01 18:50 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 4/4] x86/asm: Change sync_core() to use MOV to CR2 to  serialize Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 08:40 +0100
  [PATCH 3/4] x86/microcode/intel: Replace sync_core() with cpuid_eax(1) Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-11-30 21:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 3/4] x86/microcode/intel: Replace sync_core() with  cpuid_eax(1) Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-12-01 10:20 +0100
  [PATCH v2 6/6] x86/asm: Change sync_core() to use MOV to CR2 to serialize Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 01:40 +0100
  [PATCH v2 4/6] x86/paravirt: Make sync_core() be a paravirt op Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 01:40 +0100
  [PATCH v2 3/6] x86/microcode/intel: Replace sync_core() with cpuid_eax(1) Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 01:40 +0100
  [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 01:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> - 2016-12-02 12:50 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-02 18:10 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> - 2016-12-02 18:20 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> - 2016-12-02 18:30 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-02 18:30 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2016-12-02 19:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-02 20:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> - 2016-12-02 21:10 +0100
    Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-12-02 18:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 18:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Borislav Petkov <bp@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 19:20 +0100
          Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-12-02 19:30 +0100
            Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Borislav Petkov <bp@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 20:00 +0100
              Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-12-02 20:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-12-02 20:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-12-02 20:30 +0100
                [PATCH] x86/alternatives: Do not use sync_core() to serialize I$ Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-12-03 16:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH] x86/alternatives: Do not use sync_core() to serialize I$ Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-03 18:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-12-02 20:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-02 21:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-12-02 22:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-03 00:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-12-03 00:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-02 20:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-02 20:30 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-12-02 20:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-12-02 20:30 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core() implementation Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-12-02 19:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/xen: Add a Xen-specific sync_core()  implementation Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-12-03 13:50 +0100
  [PATCH v2 2/6] Revert "x86/boot: Fail the boot if !M486 and CPUID is missing" Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 01:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 0/4] CPUID-less CPU fixes and improvements Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2016-12-02 01:40 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 0/4] CPUID-less CPU fixes and improvements Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 11:20 +0100
  [PATCH v2 0/6] CPUID-less CPU/sync_core fixes and improvements Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 01:40 +0100
  [PATCH v2 1/6] x86/asm/32: Make sync_core() handle missing CPUID on all 32-bit kernels Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2016-12-02 01:40 +0100

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