Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be suppressed

From	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
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Subject	Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be suppressed
Date	2016-11-21 20:10 +0100
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:42:45PM +0000, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On 21 November 2016 at 16:26, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ard Biesheuvel
> > <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> On 16 November 2016 at 18:11, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>
> >>>
> >>> If a user tells shim to not use the certs/hashes in the UEFI db variable
> >>> for verification purposes, shim will set a UEFI variable called
> >>> MokIgnoreDB.  Have the uefi import code look for this and ignore the db
> >>> variable if it is found.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Similar concern as in the previous patch: it appears to me that you
> >> can DoS a machine by setting MokIgnoreDB if, e.g., its modules are
> >> signed against a cert that resides in db, and shim/mokmanager are not
> >> being used.
> >
> > If shim/mokmanager aren't used, then you can't actually modify
> > MokIgnoreDB.  Again, it requires physical access and a reboot into
> > mokmanager to actually take effect.
> >
> 
> This does the trick as well
> 
> printf "\x07\x00\x00\x00\x01" >
> /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/MokIgnoreDB-605dab50-e046-4300-abb6-3dd810dd8b23

So that really means two things.  First, kernel should only honor any of
the Mok* variables if they're Boot Services-only variables.  Second, to
avoid the DoS, shim should create them all as Boot Services-only the
first time it boots.  That'll prevent them from being created post-boot.

-- 
        Peter

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[PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be suppressed David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> - 2016-11-16 19:20 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be suppressed Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> - 2016-11-21 17:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be suppressed Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org> - 2016-11-21 17:30 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be suppressed Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> - 2016-11-21 17:50 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be suppressed Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> - 2016-11-21 20:10 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be  suppressed Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com> - 2016-11-21 20:20 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be suppressed Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> - 2016-11-21 20:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 9/9] MODSIGN: Allow the "db" UEFI variable to be  suppressed Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com> - 2016-11-21 20:10 +0100

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