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Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled

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----- On Nov 17, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Paul E. McKenney paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:46:34AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:51 AM, Lai Jiangshan jiangshanlai@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers
>> > <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>> >> Userspace applications should be allowed to expect the membarrier system
>> >> call with MEMBARRIER_CMD_SHARED command to issue memory barriers on
>> >> nohz_full CPUs, but synchronize_sched() does not take those into
>> >> account.
>> >>
>> >> Given that we do not want unrelated processes to be able to affect
>> >> real-time sensitive nohz_full CPUs, simply return ENOSYS when membarrier
>> >> is invoked on a kernel with enabled nohz_full CPUs.
>> >>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
>> >> CC: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>> >> CC: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
>> >> CC: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>> >> CC: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
>> >> CC: <stable@vger.kernel.org>    [3.10+]
>> >> ---
>> >>  kernel/membarrier.c | 4 ++++
>> >>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
>> >>
>> >> diff --git a/kernel/membarrier.c b/kernel/membarrier.c
>> >> index 536c727..9f9284f 100644
>> >> --- a/kernel/membarrier.c
>> >> +++ b/kernel/membarrier.c
>> >> @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
>> >>
>> >>  #include <linux/syscalls.h>
>> >>  #include <linux/membarrier.h>
>> >> +#include <linux/tick.h>
>> >>
>> >>  /*
>> >>   * Bitmask made from a "or" of all commands within enum membarrier_cmd,
>> >> @@ -51,6 +52,9 @@
>> >>   */
>> >>  SYSCALL_DEFINE2(membarrier, int, cmd, int, flags)
>> >>  {
>> >> +       /* MEMBARRIER_CMD_SHARED is not compatible with nohz_full. */
>> >> +       if (tick_nohz_full_enabled())
>> >> +               return -ENOSYS;
>> > 
>> > I guess this code needs to be moved down into the branch of
>> > "case MEMBARRIER_CMD_SHARED" to match its comment.
>> 
>> No, that would be unexpected from user-space. Either a system
>> call is implemented or not, not "implemented for some parameters".
>> 
>> We also want MEMBARRIER_CMD_QUERY to return -ENOSYS in this case,
>> and all other parameter values to also return -ENOSYS (rather than
>> -EINVAL).
>> 
>> If a system call that returns successfully on CMD_QUERY or EINVAL,
>> user-space may assume it will not have to handle ENOSYS in the
>> next calls.
>> 
>> 
>> > 
>> > Acked-by: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
>> > 
>> > But I'm afraid, in the future, tick_nohz_full will become a default y
>> > feature. thus it makes sys_membarrier() always disabled. we might
>> > need a new MEMBARRIER_CMD_XXX to handle it?
>> 
>> This may require that we send an IPI to nohz_full CPUs, which will
>> disturb them real-time wise. Any better ideas ?
> 
> Restrict the IPIs to CPUs running the process executing the
> sys_membarrier() system call.  This would mean that CPUs only
> are interrupted by their own application's request.

This would break use-cases of cross-process shared memory. :-(

Mathieu


> 
> 							Thanx, Paul

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 08:00 +0100
  Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> - 2016-11-17 12:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> - 2016-11-17 15:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-11-17 18:20 +0100
        Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> - 2016-11-17 18:30 +0100
          Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-11-17 18:50 +0100
            Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-17 19:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-17 19:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-17 20:30 +0100
  Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2016-11-17 18:30 +0100

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